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  • #572769
    prior_rider
    109 Posts

    I wish G3 or BD or someone else made an alternative climbing skin for the split. I read about a DIY mod on here, but it looked like something I would screw up. I think my board is too long (Prior Backcountry, 165 I think) and the skins don’t extend all the way to the back of the ski.

    Also, I am not convinced that Voile makes them with the wet Cascade crud we are used to around the PNW.

    #624554
    surfsnowywaves
    60 Posts

    prior, don’t worry about the skins. they’re plenty long enough for your board. you don’t want them as long as your board anyways – you want the end of the skin to be right in front of the point where your tails start to turn up. if the skins are longer, the end will start to flop around, loosening the entire skin on the way up, making them nonfunctional. as far as working with cascade glop, there’s plenty of folks on here who will probably be able to attest to the fact that they will work, no worries. they work fine for all sorts of east coast mank (we get anything from cement to fluff).

    someone else can verify this or debunk it – but i do believe that the voile skins are more or less rebranded bd ascension skins? same plush color, and isn’t that the bd logo on the strip in the middle of the skin?

    #624552
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    @surfsnowywaves wrote:

    someone else can verify this or debunk it – but i do believe that the voile skins are more or less rebranded bd ascension skins? same plush color, and isn’t that the bd logo on the strip in the middle of the skin?

    Correct: Voile skins = BD

    BTW Prior, with BD and Voile residing along the Wasatch (intermountain snowpack), you may be correct about the PNW snowpack having less bearing on their designs, BUT grab some Glop Stopper wax from BD and you should be good to go.

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #624553
    sketchyT
    280 Posts

    I’ve also heard of people spraying their skins with Armorall to keep the glop off. Has anyone else heard of this? I’d be conserned how the Armorall would react with the skin glue.

    #624555
    samh
    726 Posts

    I had to read this thread twice before I posted because, yes BD definitely makes splitty skins!

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    samh.net

    #624556
    prior_rider
    109 Posts

    Thanks for the replies, that is interesting that it is BD who make the skins. Does anyone else make a skin for a custom width ski? I would buy another set to try em out.

    #624557
    Shep
    525 Posts

    With BD’s new style tip loop, I would be far more willing to buy some of their skins for my split now. Before that, no one else made a tip attachment system that I thought could handle the angled tips of the split as well as Voile’s riveted clips. hmmm… maybe I should buy myself some of BD’s mohair skins for epic split mountaineering trips… :drool:

    prior_rider, pretty much every skin maker sells many widths of skins… but I think the tip attachment is the importnat thing (re: above).

    Thanks,
    Shep

    #624558
    affix snow
    521 Posts

    @Shep wrote:

    With BD’s new style tip loop, I would be far more willing to buy some of their skins for my split now. Before that, no one else made a tip attachment system that I thought could handle the angled tips of the split as well as Voile’s riveted clips. hmmm…

    Ive been using BD STS Skins on my split for 4 seasons now. Never a single worry about their tip loop.

    #624559
    prior_rider
    109 Posts

    Just bumping my own thread from earlier this year.

    I emailed climbingskinsdirect.com and they indicated that they do skins for splits. If this is the case, they should be able to make a custom set that have tail clips which would enable a full ski coverage. Has anyone ordered split-specific skins from this company? How was your experience?

    #624560
    maniacdave
    564 Posts

    ^^^^

    A couple of threads to look over, over at the TGR forums, if you’re considering Climbingskinsdirect. I have no experience with them, but many of the folks over there do, so it’s a worthwhile resource

    http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101534&highlight=climbingskinsdirect

    http://tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178033&highlight=climbingskinsdirect

    That was Pontus

    #624561
    prior_rider
    109 Posts

    Thanks. That is a good thread, although it doesn’t appear that any of the posters are splitboarders.

    One of the questions I am interested in having answered is whether anyone has had these made specifically for a splitboard, and if they have had these made in a full length with a clip at both the front AND the end much like our backcountry ski friends have. If you had a good tail clip, you could extend the skin for the length of the board, instead of only to the point at the board where the tip begins to turn upwards.

    Anyone else out there with a split try out other skins than Voile?

    #624562
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    I have used the CSD (Climbing Skins Direct) skins for all of last year. I have been pleased with them. The people were cool, the skins were great, and they are cheaper than all others. I got the 140cm and they have a splitboard attachment setup (just let them know it is for a splitty). They run the full length and have a rubbery / stretchy tail connector. You will have to put a little more time cutting and trimming them, and they go through the clip bars and adhere glue-to-glue. My only wish is that they were lighter, but I think they are still lighter than the Voile.

    I was not sold on the Voile skins, and the cost is way too much (not to mention no tail clip).

    I have to give them the big :thumpsup:

    Pedro

    Sorry I don’t have a camera to post pics….

    #624563
    hoglord
    202 Posts

    I have BD STS Split skins and they ae pretty nice. I rigged up a piece of shock cord on the rear belt for a tail clip. No probs.

    #624564
    russman
    692 Posts

    How many of you guys/gals would like to see better skins on the market?

    I for one would like something lighter, that has better glue (maybe even glue-less) has split-specific tail clips, and that doesn’t act like a huge sponge when its springtime. When they get soaking wet we’re talking about an extra couple of pounds on each foot!

    #624565
    schwalbster
    321 Posts

    Well, there is stuff out there, the reviews last season were very mixed concerning durability though!
    I posted this last season:
    Anyone here ever heard of, or better tried those Gecko Skins from Austria?
    Interesting concept. No glue !?, lighter, work in the widest variety of temperatures, can be stuck together and come apart easily. At least that’s what they claim!? That would solve the issues here and save weight!? But their website doesn’t give a lot of info, don’t even know if they make wide skins anyway!?

    Sorry for copy and paste. Lazy!

    Anyway, this is their website: http://www.gecko.co.at/Gecko_Home_ENG.html

    Last year they didn’t have a USA distribution, now they have. I also heard they do make wide skins and that a well known and beloved Splitboard Binding Inventor has some for testing!

    After much research, experimentation and consideration, I have decided adulthood is not for me. Thank you for the opportunity.

    #624566
    rughty
    620 Posts

    Anyone have pics of their tail clips? I have 2 pairs of Voile skins w/o the tail clips. The first pair are the older skins with the nylon strip down the middle. I like these because they can be separated without too much trouble and as long as the board is dry, they stick very well. The new pair of Voile skins that come with the cheat sheets and no nylon strip absolutely suck. :thumbsdown: The cheat sheets are made with woven thread like a window screen and is coated. After somewhere between 5-10 trips I have noticed that the coating used on the cheat sheets come off onto to skin glue causing them to not stick to the board very well. I went out a couple of weeks ago and had one of my skins come completely off about halfway up the skin track. :banghead: I had to resort to duct taping the tails to get to the top. The cheat sheets are garbage. Not only do they fall apart after little use, they are just one more thing to mess with when faster transitioning is desired.

    #624567
    jcocci
    699 Posts

    @PedroDelfuego wrote:

    I have used the CSD (Climbing Skins Direct) skins for all of last year. I have been pleased with them. The people were cool, the skins were great, and they are cheaper than all others. I got the 140cm and they have a splitboard attachment setup (just let them know it is for a splitty). They run the full length and have a rubbery / stretchy tail connector. You will have to put a little more time cutting and trimming them, and they go through the clip bars and adhere glue-to-glue. My only wish is that they were lighter, but I think they are still lighter than the Voile.

    I was not sold on the Voile skins, and the cost is way too much (not to mention no tail clip).

    I have to give them the big :thumpsup:

    Pedro

    Sorry I don’t have a camera to post pics….

    So which CSD skins did you order? I want to have tail clips and I don’t see how their tail clips would work on a split.

    #624568
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    They don’t really have photos on their website, but if you send them an email and tell them it is for a splitboard they will include the correct hardware. I don’t think they know much about splitboards, but they seemed nice and the product is good. The tail stretcher works on other skins too, I have them on some G3’s.

    Lauren: info@climbingskinsdirect.com

    Cheers

    #624569
    jyacub
    19 Posts

    I believe K2 is putting out splitboard specific skins for 2012 with tip and tail attachments. Would be nice not to worry about getting snow under your tail and having a skin come off. I always carry hockey tape for this reason cause my glue sucks and I keep procrastinating re-gluing them.

    http://www.splitboard.com/talk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10376

    #624570
    drpw
    89 Posts

    A little PSA: I just ordered some skins from CSD with the twin-tip option and have been able to make them work on my split. I thought I’d lost one of the stretchers and emailed them asking about buying just one (they’re sold in pairs for $15) and before I even got an email from them I got an email from paypal telling me my stretcher had shipped free of charge. I did also get an email from them telling me they were just going to send me out another one. Great customer service if you ask me and I’ll definitely be buying from them again.

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