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- September 18, 2008 at 4:29 pm #608094shredgnarParticipant
I ride in a straight jacket and wear really tight jeans with a chain wallet. I wear harley davidson boots instead of snowboard boots and always have a cig in my mouth. I also pull my goggles down real low. I am the epitome of style!
I just use my split to get back to the top of the rail yard, it’s easier than hiking. 😉
(Good God I’m a crotchety old school snowboarder!)September 18, 2008 at 7:43 pm #608095prestonfParticipant
I like this topic.
I agree that “good style” is smooth and easy, yet powerful (ala CK). I think that Jeremy Jones often looks a little out of control because the stuff you see him riding on film is truly steep and on the edge of what’s turnable. That dude is smooooth on mellower pow slopes.
I certainly wish my style was a little calmer and smoother, esp. in steeper terrain when I’m thinking about the possibility of going for a ride or getting sluffed out. I tend to stiffen up and my arms go all over the place. But hey, thinking and safety are good style in the backcountry 😛 . I don’t think that riding at the resort will necessarily train you in that regard, but getting out into the deep a lot might.
Here’s a video of me “testing” a chute. It’s pretty obvious I’m a little sketched at the top, but after the first couple of turns when it’s clear I’m not going to end up broken at the bottom of the slope, I’m a little more at ease and fluid. That’s part of the fun of riding in the backcountry, though: the release after the stress. I just wish I rode better during the stressful part!
I ripped the next chute over on our next run when we were more confident in the conditions, but there’s no video of that so you’ll have to take my word for it :wink:.September 18, 2008 at 9:28 pm #608096NoKneesParticipant
Good style is like beauty, eye of the beholder and all. However, most can agree on some basics of good or bad style. The calm, relaxed, not flapping around, not throwing yourself around, riding with the mountain as opposed to against it, etc….
As for my style, no clue. I know I use to trail my arm too much, and it does pop out sometimes in steeper variable conditions when I get bucked around a bit, but I try to keep it hangin low…… I’m always on the other side of the camera, so I lack much photographic evidence. Guess that will have to be goal this winter, do a little self analysis.
My wife says I have a good controlled, seemingly effortless style, most calm, seldom fighting the mountain…. Some days she get’s mad at me for making things look too easy… Little does she know what’s going on in my head, and how many years it took to “make it look easy” no matter if it is or not… I know I rarely feel like I ride with as much style as she states, so it would be good to see, but I’ll take her word for it! Why would she lie to me? 😉 😉
Greg - NoKneesSeptember 18, 2008 at 9:39 pm #608097wasatch surfParticipant
style wise i think craig kelly is king in my book. every time i see a picture or video of him riding, i instantly feel like i need to be on my board.
as far as my style… i like to get myself onto terrain that i can’t really handle, make two turns, and fall down the rest. 😉September 19, 2008 at 3:30 pm #608098bcriderParticipantSeptember 19, 2008 at 5:35 pm #608099prestonfParticipant
Looks like a fun line prestonf! 8)
It was interesting to see you stomp on the snow and enter that on your toeside, I always feel more comfortable on my heelside in that same situation.
I ride hard boots and feel like I have better edge control/feel on my toeside, so often like to enter and stomp on stuff that way, but if there are things to navigate through that you need to see, I definitely feel more comfortable on my heelside. Whatever works!!
More thread drift…
This is probably obvious, but I don’t think that stomping around is necessarily a good slope test. (In that video, we had cut a small cornice, but had approached from the backside, so didn’t really know what the snow was like…)September 19, 2008 at 8:20 pm #608100BryceParticipant
I dunno what ‘good’ style is but personally I like skateboarding a surfboard on snowSeptember 19, 2008 at 8:30 pm #608101bcriderParticipant
I like skateboarding a surfboard on snow
ps. Welcome to the forum!October 2, 2008 at 9:15 pm #608102nedrapierParticipant
I tend to judge a person’s style by how fluid their riding is (when riding natural terrain and pow versus pipe and park) and how easy they make difficult things look. It kind of just comes naturally the more you ride.
That reminds me of a quote I heard ages ago that’s stuck with me. “If it doesn’t look easy, you haven’t done enough work” I think it was a dancer, Fred Astaire maybe.
I have an idea of the style I want to work towards, but that basically revolves around me being much better than I am: smooth, fluid, solid, fast, with a couple of lofty, effortless tricks thrown in for good measure. What comes first, the desire to feel good riding or to look good riding? They’re bundled up together, for sure. You know when you do something that felt good whether it would have looked good. “Did you see my ___ at the top there?” you see somebody do something you like, and you want to do it too.
Nicolas Muller is so good to watch, he makes everything look effortless, and he seems to find so much to have fun on, whether it’s something really small or something really big:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2iO1PcAQc9g I rewound the cheeky 360 at 40 secs about 10 times!
And Tom Burt, not top of everyone’s style list. I started riding round TB6 o’clock, and I used to think that his sections were a bit boring. It wasn’t until a fair while later that I twigged that the reason it looks boring to someone who doesn’t ride is because he’s so darn smooth. On the most ridiculous terrain, every turn looks easy because the turn before it puts him in exactly the right place to make the smoothest and easiest turn.
This is the only footage I’ve got of me riding. Stiff legs, and not flowy, but there’s one turn in there that‘s alright. http://www.jumpcut.com/view/?id=4532A82690BD11DDB6C5000423CEF682
Hardly the natural environment for the board, either. Rest assured there was feet of powder around and I got stuck in. Trouble is, you never want to faff with the camera on the good runs, do you?October 2, 2008 at 11:57 pm #608103powderjunkieParticipant
That vid of Nicholas is sick. He is actually making turns after airs which you don’t see much of anymore.
Love the butters and the tweaked out Japan grab spins. :bow:
Burt is very fluid with no arm swinging and exaggerated body movement.
I come from a skate background, so that has always been my approach to snowboarding.
I still constantly try not to do that lazy rear hand drag on toe side turn and try to always keep the knees bent at the end of a heel side turn. I hate it when I see a vid or pic or me with a straight back leg. :banghead: Usually happens when I’m tired.October 3, 2008 at 12:07 am #608104EcobradParticipant
Damn, that dude is fluid. Lots of hero snow too.October 3, 2008 at 12:11 am #608105stoudemaParticipant
Sweet – Nicolas :headbang: I’ve seen him in some past films – definitely good style!October 3, 2008 at 3:18 pm #608106vtbackcountryParticipant
smooth, confident, controlled… and most important, creative.
using the terrain and your skill set to express yourself, however that works best for YOU.
air, steep lines, deep pow, trenches, etc… whatever gets you off.October 5, 2008 at 6:22 am #608107fustercluckParticipant
I’ll have to agree with the posts above. Nicolas Muller is all style, and Tom Burt is just so fluid, he makes tough lines look easy. Travis Rice is another super stylie all-around rider. I’ve seen all of them riding real mountains first hand, and it’s not just the videos that make them look good. As a contrast, Johan has a much more powerful-looking style. But there are plenty of dudes (and chicks, for that matter) no one has heard of ripping your local spot with good style. Even a few skiers! To me, it’s all about looking like you are in control, and flowing with the mountain, being confident, whether making turns or in the air. But what do I really know? I’m a tall lanky retired skier with no skate background that rode a lot of park for several years, so I know I have my own style, don’t know how good it is, though (I need to get me a video part just so I can see it myself!) What I know for sure is bad style – postholing a skintrack, leaving poles at home, taking orders from the Man, etc.October 8, 2008 at 4:18 pm #608108vtbackcountryParticipant
What I know for sure is bad style – postholing a skintrack, leaving poles at home, taking orders from the Man, etc.
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