Forums Splitboards Voile Revelator – long taper, long scr shape?
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  • #675948
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    Don’t know if it holds much promise for folks interested in the specs, but didn’t Jive mention that both Revelator’s he test rode had no scales?

    As far as waxing/skins; it’s a simple matter not to drip wax on that section if you don’t want to have to clean it off. And the intention from Voile appears to be that one uses both the scales (rolling terrain) and skins (ascending).

    As far as cap goes, I’ve had two Voile’s with cap construction and had zero durability issues.The bigger problem in my mind was with the Mojo. Because it was capped along the inner edges there simply wasn’t not enough contact area. As a result the halves were constantly popping over/under one another between, fore and aft of the bindings (same for two V-Tail’s I tested). A deal breaker personally, but the Mojo certainly didn’t fall apart and went on to live out its days in the east coast woods.

    On the other hand, my 195 swallowtail is only capped on the outer edges with the center being sidewall and its bomber! (did I mention its a 2002). And of course anyone who knows the whacky lowtide bushwhacks I do, knows I hardly baby my gear. I love this board and the mix of cap/sidewall.
    :twocents:

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #675949
    jive stick
    110 Posts

    ^^^
    Got the same 195 outer edge cap swallowtail. It hasn’t been on snow in two years because we haven’t seen a big storm.

    I’ve been testing equipment for Voile over 25 years, including split boards since day one.
    Currently trying the 165 and a cob job dynafit toe, cable heel, bellowed AT boot, mounted on next years V6 ski.
    All the stuff is proto, the board has already been changed with the latest, a half a pound lighter, more camber.
    Will try that if it snows again.
    As can be seen in the photo, no fish scales and a beat up base.
    Kwicker binding issues linger and there is no boot. Mine work better than what’s available, with locking adjustable forward lean and thermofit liner.
    I snowboard on snowboard boots because of the comfort with little interest in using ski boots for snowboarding.
    Not the best skier and certainly not the best snowboarder. I am, however, a good tester because of honesty in likes and dislikes.
    I like the board.
    Doubt I’ll demo a fish scale Revelator. Not real interested in low angles.
    Over and out.

    wowasatch.com

    #675950
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    @snurfer wrote:

    Don’t know if it holds much promise for folks interested in the specs, but didn’t Jive mention that both Revelator’s he test rode had no scales?

    As far as waxing/skins; it’s a simple matter not to drip wax on that section if you don’t want to have to clean it off. And the intention from Voile appears to be that one uses both the scales (rolling terrain) and skins (ascending).

    As far as cap goes, I’ve had two Voile’s with cap construction and had zero durability issues.The bigger problem in my mind was with the Mojo. Because it was capped along the inner edges there simply wasn’t not enough contact area. As a result the halves were constantly popping over/under one another between, fore and aft of the bindings (same for two V-Tail’s I tested). A deal breaker personally, but the Mojo certainly didn’t fall apart and went on to live out its days in the east coast woods.

    On the other hand, my 195 swallowtail is only capped on the outer edges with the center being sidewall and its bomber! (did I mention its a 2002). And of course anyone who knows the whacky lowtide bushwhacks I do, knows I hardly baby my gear. I love this board and the mix of cap/sidewall.
    :twocents:

    Snurfer: I could see how you guys in the Wasatch may not have any durability problems with cap construction. The Wasatch has a fairly deep snowpack in comparison to our Rocky Mountains here in CO. Here, we hit a lot more rocks, and we hit them hard. After a few trips to the Wasatch I could see how the weight savings of a cap board might be OK for riding there, I do not think I have ever taken a hard rock shot there, unless one were to ride the outracks to low elevation in Big Cottonowood.

    #675951
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    @barrows wrote:

    unless one were to ride the outracks to low elevation in Big Cottonowood.

    Bingo!
    All chiding aside, you make valid points for riders in a broad range of scenarios.

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #675952
    Skijor AK
    33 Posts

    I would buy this board in a heart beat. Not everyone lives in the Front Range with roads going right up the mountainside.

    The scales on the new Voile look awesome! My only complaint is the scales go from edge to edge. A row in the middle would have been better. I am an avid xc skier and scales have proven to be the time-tested go to for long tours in AK. Also, you don’t wax scales you goof balls. If you do, just use the slide wax (looks like deodorant). It doesn’t mess with skins, I promise.

    Quite a few areas I like to split require this pattern: Flat ski in, steep skin up, steep ride down in board mode, switch back to ski mode and go out w/ no skins (making little hills more difficult than needs be with awkward side steps).

    I board with skiers and am always trying to keep up the best I can. The board w/ scales would make the most boring and slow-going part of this routine much faster. Sorry, guys I can’t pump and carry my momentum for a mile of flats. I guess I was just born in the wrong state for such skills :thumpsup: Scales are the king of rolling terrain. The downs are nice (skins suck for this) and it would be even nicer to get a good glide going on the flats and rollers.

    #675953
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    skijor: totally agreed, as I mentioned the scales would be nice, especially for long exits while split skiing. And, BTW, here in CO we have plenty of longer, flatter approaches/exits as well, not everywhere is like Berthoud Pass.
    I think the scales are a specialized thing, which could be seen as useful for some riders/areas. I would just like to see them being an option rather than standard.

    #675954
    Zude
    367 Posts

    I could see this as a quiver board for the low angle cinder cones near my house. Scales are a literal drag though. I love my crosscountry/tele skis with scales and put up with their limitations. I love the idea but I really like a fast and controllable base on my snow boards.
    That said I wouldn’t be surprised if these could climb 25 degree powdery slopes.

    #675955
    Voile-USA
    10 Posts

    Hey guys,

    Inserted some images to clarify where we are going with the Revelator. Next fall we are shipping 3 models, Revelator, Revelator BC, and Womens Revelator. Comparing to Mojo RX, the Revelator has less taper and a softer flex. We are using a lighter weight wood core and have added our new channel puck system for easier setup. It’s going to be a big improvement over the original Mojo and Mojo RX. If you have specific questions, fire away I will get you some answers. -Dave G., Voilé Manufacturing

    #675956
    samh
    726 Posts

    Really hope the patterned base proves successful. Heard about this being done on a proto from another company and had a friend who DIY’ed this technique and I feel this is a great added feature for the backcountry aficionado.

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    samh.net

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