Forums The Gear Room Verts (A bit of a rehash) Viewing 7 posts - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) Author Posts November 14, 2005 at 9:09 pm #567199 Killclimbz 1165 Posts I just got through talking with the dude at Patroller Supply. Seems that he just got an order of Ten pairs of Verts in. I know some people were interested in these last year. He managed to get a few pairs in but the supplier/manufacturer does not put these out easily. I guess Verts are more of a hobby for this guy than a business. Anyway, ten pairs are up for grabs so if you want a pair now is the time to get ’em. November 14, 2005 at 10:41 pm #584530 SanFrantastico 1514 Posts Do Verts work well in firm conditions, or they really only for steep & soft?? I’ve never been able to figure out if they can substitute for crampons on firm snow. I remember reading a Shasta TR where jimw was using them as everyone else ascended on crampons. Thanks.. Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968. November 14, 2005 at 11:01 pm #584531 Killclimbz 1165 Posts I am not so sure how they work on steep snow. Some of the others will have to answer that one for you. I have not used them….yet. November 15, 2005 at 12:21 am #584532 powderjunkie 1669 Posts Firm snow is a no go with Vert and IMO they won’t substitue for crampons. But, in semi-firm snow they can be good for kicking steps, but can be problematic if you lose your footing with them on. With a little trial and error on safe slopes you can see their limits. Aside from that, I think they kick ass and its a good tool to have, especially if you know you’ll be doing short, steep lines. Also a good idea for deep days when topping out might be difficult. They set a staircase like nobody’s business. November 16, 2005 at 3:48 am #584533 UTAH 830 Posts I have always wanted a pair of verts, how much? November 16, 2005 at 4:10 am #584534 Shane 4 Posts $69.95 BTW they are listed under “Climbing Skins – verts snowshoes” so look under “C” for climbing not “V” for Verts or “S” for snowshoes. November 16, 2005 at 5:25 pm #584535 wtp 17 Posts Verts work fine for short, non-technical hard-pack pitches. You can kick steps in with the “teeth” on the front to get up icy stuff. I haven’t broken a pair yet, but I can see the damage being done when I kick steps. For me, they work great for mixed conditions ascents where you’ll find softer and harder stuff, with the majority not being rock hard. I wouldn’t recommend them for solid ice or hardpack slopes over 35ish degrees, as I have tried both was exteremely gripped (my ass, not my feet!) Also keep in mind that they are for ascent only – try to walk downhill in a pair and you will see what I mean very quickly. Still, they weigh a lot less than crampons. If it is blue ice death sheet I don’t want to be riding it anyway. Viewing 7 posts - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) You must be logged in to reply to this topic.