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  • #670667
    KR
    159 Posts

    Beautiful day today up in Albion Basin. The weather seemed like it cleared out earlier than forecasted, and our crew was surprisingly able to escape the masses. So much fun to finally tour with longtime forum guys Utah, Mar123, and VT…. (Doug McKay)

    We dug on a N-ish aspect around 10k feet, in a very sheltered location with minimal wind effect. There was probably 30-40 cm new snow on top of the old November snow/dirt layer/October snow. ECTN20+. We were able to collapse the weakest layer with a few hits from the shoulder (November facets), but with no propagation. The general consensus was that if we were in an area with more loading and a stiffer slab, we would have seen propagation.

    Also, we rode an E aspect around 10+ k feet with no signs of instability on the downhill, although we did get a collapse on the skin back up that same slope. Seemed like the newest snow bonded well to the underlying stout crust/facet combo.

    Overall, seems like there’s poor structure on the NW through NE, and we’ll see a round of avalanches with each loading event.

    Take care, y’all! Come on down to Wasatch Touring on thursday! (I’ll supply the PBR. :clap: )

    #670670
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    @UTAH wrote:

    Thumbs up for sure.

    roger that, good times guys

    #670672
    escobadelmar
    7 Posts

    Thanks for all of the great pics and Beta!
    Any one want to do an am trip tomorrow in the upper Cottonwoods?

    Mike
    eight zero one three six nine three six two two

    #670673
    claymond
    25 Posts

    Went up Grizzly for a few quick laps on my new-to-me Jones 🙂 this morning. Snow was quite good

    #670674
    UTAH
    830 Posts

    Must of slept through the wind event last night but thought maybe the southern half of the Wasatch got skipped. Not so much the case in the mountains. Dipped our feet in every aspect, N/NE facing not so good, I would rather forget the turns we found on that aspect. E/SE were decent down off the ridge. Winds were nuking, snowstructure on N/NE remains the same, ECTP 24 but wasn’t consistent with other ECT I did. Two weak layers, the facets on the ground and facet layer about 8 or so inches above the dirt layer. Only found the facet farm under the dirt layer to be reactive in my pits but my partner digging more E facing found the upper layer more reactive. In the mountains none the less so no complaints here.





    Take Care.

    #670675
    mar123
    370 Posts

    nice shots UTAH looks like you found some good turns…photos 1&2 are siiiiiiiiiiiiiic….wolverineish ?

    #670676
    UTAH
    830 Posts

    Thanks Dave, yeah that’s the general local. Got out again today and the winds had switched and picked up, wreaking havoc on everything up high. Went looking far from the resorts for an east facing the winds hadn’t got to. Found it with it little luck. Was thinking some Nfacing chutes were looking super good but didn’t end up commiting. They looked loaded and while my pit results on a similar loaded feature were non conclusive the snowstructure remained the same. Snowstructer always trumps pit results for more commiting lines.
    It was a glorious day.

    Fun skinning through numerous rock gardens on the way to the zone.

    The Zone.

    We skipped fun looking Nfacing chutes for Efacing pow turns.

    Hand pits revealed what I have been finding on most true Efacing lines, a stout crust with damp facets underneath and not much of a snowpack. No sign of the dirt layer, found everything from 6 inches on top of rock to 2 ft blower on top of the stout crust. Riding was good.




    The three amigos.

    Take care.

    #670678
    mej
    81 Posts

    Nice, UTAH. I’m surprised that area doesn’t get more traffic. Skied a west facing chute today in LCC. Great snow! The upper 1000′ of the line was a chalky layer with some new on top that made for creamy turns. A couple rocky sections required side-stepping in the middle, and the apron, despite being fairly open, was very nice pow with minimal wind-effect. Based on my travels the snow survived the wind better than the UAC report might indicate. Visibility was not good, but was better than it looks in the pic. You could see the undulations of the terrain.


    Photo by JT

    The chute had previously slid, probably yesterday or Friday, and left a good smooth surface for the 2-3 inches of creamy snow that managed to drift in. My guess is that is got loaded, probably from cross-loading from the wind, not loading from the top, and slid on the pre-11/15 storm surface.

    #670679
    mej
    81 Posts

    For anybody with some time on their hands, the area northeast of Bryce Canyon got 6 inches of snow water equivalent and 50+ inches of snow the last couple days. I bet there is some good red rock riding for the next day or two.

    #670680
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    Mej- west Facing LCC….homicide? or were you across the street somewhere?

    #670681
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    @mej wrote:

    For anybody with some time on their hands, the area northeast of Bryce Canyon got 6 inches of snow water equivalent and 50+ inches of snow the last couple days. I bet there is some good red rock riding for the next day or two.

    Thought about heading down south yesterday, but opted to get my first turns at Brighton. Might head down around Bryce over the Holiday.

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #670682
    Taylor
    797 Posts

    @mej wrote:

    For anybody with some time on their hands, the area northeast of Bryce Canyon got 6 inches of snow water equivalent and 50+ inches of snow the last couple days. I bet there is some good red rock riding for the next day or two.

    Which range? The Aquarius Plateau? If this info is true then it’s likely that all of the Henrys, Abajos and La Sals got an early season whalloping. Snurfer pm me if you head there over the holidays. I’m going to do some snotel research….

    @sun_rocket

    #670683
    Snowvols
    291 Posts

    @Snurfer wrote:

    @mej wrote:

    For anybody with some time on their hands, the area northeast of Bryce Canyon got 6 inches of snow water equivalent and 50+ inches of snow the last couple days. I bet there is some good red rock riding for the next day or two.

    Thought about heading down south yesterday, but opted to get my first turns at Brighton. Might head down around Bryce over the Holiday.

    Doug, I didn’t think you would be getting out yet due to the thin pack. Should have asked if you wanted to take a walk yesterday in the west desert. Let’s get out sometime soon! :guinness:

    #670684
    mej
    81 Posts

    Yeah, the southern end of the Aquarius Plateau got the most. Neither the La Sals or Abajo’s did as well. Not sure about the Henrys, although I doubt they would have been able to wring out as much moisture out as the Aquarius. I think the really big amounts are pretty localized in places that have the best orographic lift for SE flow. Just a little further north on the Aquarius the snow amounts are a two-thirds or less of the southern end. Its going to be so warm today and this week that I fear the window will close real fast on getting good turns down there.

    #670685
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    @Snowvols wrote:

    @Snurfer wrote:

    @mej wrote:

    For anybody with some time on their hands, the area northeast of Bryce Canyon got 6 inches of snow water equivalent and 50+ inches of snow the last couple days. I bet there is some good red rock riding for the next day or two.

    Thought about heading down south yesterday, but opted to get my first turns at Brighton. Might head down around Bryce over the Holiday.

    Doug, I didn’t think you would be getting out yet due to the thin pack. Should have asked if you wanted to take a walk yesterday in the west desert. Let’s get out sometime soon! :guinness:

    lets see those photos Logan! i’m bumming that I didn’t go with you guys

    #670686
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    @Snowvols wrote:

    @Snurfer wrote:

    @mej wrote:

    For anybody with some time on their hands, the area northeast of Bryce Canyon got 6 inches of snow water equivalent and 50+ inches of snow the last couple days. I bet there is some good red rock riding for the next day or two.

    Thought about heading down south yesterday, but opted to get my first turns at Brighton. Might head down around Bryce over the Holiday.

    Doug, I didn’t think you would be getting out yet due to the thin pack. Should have asked if you wanted to take a walk yesterday in the west desert. Let’s get out sometime soon! :guinness:

    Ha, ha, “thin” is being generous 😀 Seriously, I’m four months on with my hip injury and just now starting to be able to do anything meaningful on the physical spectrum.
    Just getting to the top of great western was a lesson in frustration and humility – Def like to get out riding with you as my fitness and the snow pack shape up.

    re: heading down south – because of my above mentioned state of fitness this would be more of a road trip / go for a skin walk adventure. Realistically, anything requiring steep or long approaches is simply not an option for me right now 🙁

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #670687
    Snowvols
    291 Posts

    Doug, I am looking forward to it.

    So Thursday there was a good storm that hit the metropolis of Grantsville. As I work out this way I have a unique advantage of being able to keep track of the mountains out here as my office window over looks the twins. I wanted to get out and poke around as the SNOTEL and talking to locals I learned they had the same or more snow than the ‘snatch.

    The gate is locked at 5800′ by the way but you can skin from the car with just a couple of rocky areas. I am sure the warm front this week will bake it all away though.

    I want to do a full day of hitting several couloirs back here. Would be a fun day this winter besides the 4 mile skin to the summer trail head. Long boring road skin.

    Once we finally got 5.25 miles into our skin, the snow was nice and light. For over a mile on the summer trail was a nightmare. Snow was sticking to the skins and they were so effing heavy. Note to self bring skin wax in pack.

    I really love these mountains. Would have been cool to have bagged a big line like this, this early but just means I gotta go back for more.

    So I settled for this line.

    All and all it was a great day to get out and stretch the legs. Good company with Bucky and Ryan. Thanks guys for going!

    #670688
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    went to patsy marley yesterday. it sucked ass.

    #670689
    UTAH
    830 Posts

    Got out yesterday. Beautiful day, snow could best be described as variable to say the least. Sheltered zones had nice recrystalized pow. Ended up riding a fun 800vert Nfacing tree chute and spent most of the day with the skins on exploring. Most aspects I observed had some form of wind effect.
    Explosive work at the resort, mostly Efacing I believe.

    I’ve been putting a lot of holes in the ground since November 1st. It’s been a big part of my routine, and I’ve got it down to where it only takes me about 10 minutes to do multiple test but I usually use it as an excuse to sit down and eat/drink. It seems we go through a similar cycle every year so my goal these last few years has been to observe the snowpack the best I can to see how it heals, if it heals and when do we start making conclusions it’s safe to ride certain areas, etc. Can you see the pit.

    Not positive but I thought this was NEfacing. I was a little surprised to find a pretty stout crust at the dirt layer similar to more E facing aspects I’ve been digging on. It was a pretty sheltered spot that didn’t seem to get much sun. No results on any of the test I did, one column was even sunctioned to the ground. Who knows, only a good load and time will tell I guess.




    Take care, happy holidays.

    #670690
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    A little obs from the sunny side of the compass. Spent yesterday doing some Runbling (running and scambling) to take stock of what (if any) snow conditions existed on the North side of Big Cottonwood. Elevations of 8000′ to 9800′ feet. It was mostly clear with temps in the forties with a slight breeze along the ridges.

    Sans random patches of frozen snow, south facing is mostly bare up to 9800′. NW through NE aspects are a chaotic meld of loose facets, wind board and weather crusts. Depths rang from 1-3″ on scoured ridge tops to drifts of several feet leeward off the highest ridges. Overall what little snowpack exists in this area is too variable to categorize.

    A breakable surface crust (mostly wind board) ranging from 1″ to 4″ exists throughout the area overlying over 4-6″ loose facets; with another thinner crust over 3-5″ inches of additional facets or ice at the ground. It appeared that well off the ridges, NW held a foot or more of faceted powder worthy of some turns, no doubt deposited from last weeks easterly wind bombardment. I was dressed for scrambling, so I didn’t descend too far off the ridge to check it out. Overall I’d say the more protected grassy shots will be quite ride able after this next storm cycle, although approaching and exiting may be less fun.

    At the top of the West Desolation ridge there is a rock hard (south facing) cornice of perhaps 3′ with the leeward side being wind blown powder and facets. It was very steep in this area and footing was sketchy so I stayed well back from the 50°+ slopes falling away to the north.

    Sorry, not so much snow stoke but here is some visual amusement – Cheers!

    My objective – looks like someone lost their keys


    Easterly’s did some damage


    Going up

    Look back

    Rock art

    West, North West

    It goes

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

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