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    Good news, more than 60% of Wasatch Front residents are in support of a train up Little Cottonwood Canyon. Why in gods name woudl that be, you may reasonably ask yourself? The Fun Factor!!! Choo-chho all the way to funsville, y’all. We’re going to have so much heckin fun we might just sheesh our pants!! :banghead:

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50632872-76/canyons-utah-wasatch-envision.html.csp

    #631140
    TEX
    2486 Posts

    That interstate that goes through there goes north to a place called Logan. If I lived in SLC I would go north every weekend. The Canyons are not backcountry. The backcountry doesnt have bus service . Or trains

    just my :twocents:

    #631141
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    Tex-I agree that a lot of what we ride is not really “backcountry”, but i can ski powder/couloirs/cliffs etc. every day of the week and still work a full time job all within a half hour from my house and i don’t even live “close” to the mountains.
    Logan is okay but that drive fucking sucks. but I guess really that is the best part about utah, people like me get so caught up in the central wasatch that they forget about the 10+ mountain ranges within a few hours drive.

    sometimes I really hate utah.the bus is a nice option and i’m happy for it. the train however is not the best idea in the world. for christ sake what else are they going to try to jam up little cottonwoods ass?
    plus those 60% probably go up little cottonwood once a year to take family portraits and will never use the train. seems like a good way to spend a couple of million to me. I like that the forest service closed the biking/hiking trail where the proposed train line will go in the name of reforestation and impact reduction, but apparently building a fucking light rail in the same spot will have no impact :scratch:

    #631142
    chase_e
    81 Posts

    Just another reason to avoid the cottonwoods like the plague when the season starts. Tex has got it right, mostly.. Anywhere north of slc has some great riding potential, you just have to work a little harder to get there.

    #631143
    powderjunkie
    1669 Posts

    Watch out Tex. I have a feeling the Northern Utah crew will gut you like a fish for even mentioning…

    What are the numbers from surveys about potential users? Bad idea because no one will use it, other than some locals…?

    There’s a big issue here in the California about light rail too. Bay area to So. Cal.

    #631144
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    There are just over a million people in the Salt Lake Valley, yet only 16, 000 participated in the well advertised public meetings and extensive online surveys. Ya snooze ya loose, er get a train up LCC as it were. 😉

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    #631145
    buckchow
    356 Posts

    @TEX wrote:

    That interstate that goes through there goes north to a place called Logan. If I lived in SLC I would go north every weekend. The Canyons are not backcountry. The backcountry doesnt have bus service . Or trains

    just my :twocents:

    Huh?

    1.”The Canyons” is a ski resort near Park City with some backcountry access and no bus or train service. The study singlewhitecaveman referenced, looks into potential new bus service from SLC to Park City. If efficient for UTA (Utah Transit Authority), I think it’s a good idea.

    2. Big and Little Cottonwood Canyons do have UTA bus service, which is helpful for canyon to canyon tours, less cars in the canyons, more egalitarian, etc.

    3. Alps have tons of backcountry accessible strictly by trains and funiculars. (Chamonix, Grindelwald, Zermatt, etc)

    4. A day of touring near Logan, compared to the Cottonwood Canyons, means 2 extra hours of driving for those who live in SLC.

    5. The thought of a train up LCC makes me shudder. I sure hope not. I say that because of the significant footprint that the tracks, rail stations, etc would take up in a rather narrow canyon.

    6. Why you not like central Wasatch, Tex? A texan owns half of LCC!

    #631146
    TEX
    2486 Posts
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    Why you not like central Wasatch, Tex? A texan owns half of LCC!/quote]

    That right there plus half of the State of texas is in the canyons during christmas break is enough to shy away. But….I do think the snow/terrain outside salt lake is great, I think if I lived there i would hit it weekdays but on the weekend I would need to get away from the crowds

    #631147

    I strongly encourage everyone who thinks the Wastach is too crowded to go north.

    Gotta say, I voted for increased bus service up LCC and BCC when i had my chance. However, I dread the idea of a NFS station at the mouth of each canyon and having to apply for day use permits.

    #631148
    WhitePine
    503 Posts

    I heard the train was proposed during the 2002 Olympics when the Cottonwood Canyons resorts pretty much got bypassed. None of the events were held at those resorts because Olympics regulations require at least 2 exits in the event of an emergency/disaster. A train would be the 2nd exit to the canyon.

    People have been pushing it ever since. I think its a horrible idea. It would pretty much sit idle for 8 months of the year. Even the UTA bus service stops going up the canyon from Spring through Fall due to lack of demand. Also, it’s going to destroy the landscape and eliminate popular hiking and biking trails since the canyon is so narrow.

    I would maybe have been for it if people here were arriving in droves to ride the buses but I just don’t see the demand for it. Anyway the Park and Ride lots at the base of the canyons often aren’t even big enough to accommodate the amount of people who currently ride the bus (At least on weekends).

    #631149
    c-record
    39 Posts

    Someone tell me more about this Logan place and the touring to be found there…

    #631150
    UTAH
    830 Posts

    The problem is too many dam people don’t have 9-5 jobs!

    #631151
    LoganSplit
    8 Posts

    @c-record wrote:

    Someone tell me more about this Logan place and the touring to be found there…

    Nothing to see here, move along, I think I hear the train coming (which I don’t like the thought of).

    Watch it Tex

    #631152
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    Train :scratch: It would certainly be nice if it reduced the number of personal vehicles in the canyons. I’m just not convinced it would, nor that the canyon would heal quickly from the construction scars

    Year round buses :thumpsup: As a trail runner I would love year round buses. I hate having to baby sit a feking vehicle. When I’m feeling strong and want to cover multiple canyons its such a downer to have to backtrack and pickup a GD’d vehicle. Not to mention I hate vehicles in general.

    Fees: Make it a yearly pass like Millcreek and I do it no questions asked. Force me to plan for extra time to buy a permit every time and I’ll be pissed. Particularly if as a result, there are miles of lined up cars idling in the canyon waiting to pay.

    Shuttle in Millcreek ala Zion: Hell yes, that place is a feking shit show. I love MillCreek, and so does everyone else.

    :twocents:

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    #631153
    WhitePine
    503 Posts

    I totally agree Mill Creek needs a shuttle. I couldn’t believe how much traffic they pack onto that 1-lane narrow road.

    I’m speculating here but I wonder if many people wouldn’t ride the buses because they have to leave their vehicle in an unattended parking lot. Especially during the summer months people are always getting their cars broken into.
    I’d run the quarry trail in LCC and it always concerned me how many piles of broken window glass adorn the lot at the base. If I know I’m going to leave a car, I make sure to clean in out and remove anything that remotely appears to have any value.

    #631154
    mar123
    370 Posts

    LCC 2015

    #631155
    buckchow
    356 Posts

    Naw it’ll be like this:

    #631156
    mar123
    370 Posts

    I remeber watchin that vid back in the day… gnar

    forgot the name of the vid, had to look it up “Easy Rider” ahh the good ol days

    #631157
    buckchow
    356 Posts

    @UTAH wrote:

    The problem is too many dam people don’t have 9-5 jobs!

    NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH! We’ll get out soon UTAH don’t worry. And Tex actually there are some lines up north I’d love to check out, hollar if you do make it out here.

    #631158
    tiltedworld
    406 Posts

    @mar123 wrote:

    I remeber watchin that vid back in the day… gnar

    forgot the name of the vid, had to look it up “Easy Rider” ahh the good ol days

    Back in the day?? That was like yesterday…god I must be getting old, LOL! Great flick and gnarly to jump that train on Donner!

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