Forums Bindings Trab Gara titans Viewing 9 posts - 1 through 9 (of 9 total) Author Posts November 14, 2019 at 10:47 am #843342 Scooby2 607 Posts I think I will get onto my hard boots for a ride this winter. I’m looking to shake weight, as well as improve safety so I have been on the prowl for a tech binding that would have chance at releasing in climb mode. These Gara bindings are pretty interesting. They don’t work on springs, but torque on the bar. They don’t have the easy step in of tech toes, you have to pressure the lever to get in, but they hold pretty firmly without being locked in. This seems like a big departure in the field, where most say you’ll step out of an unlocked binding in tour mode again and again. The manual says the bindings can be toured unlocked when in your own judgment you think it would be more safe. I got these from SKIMO, 135 each and got the blue ones, that look great. 66 grams each. https://skimo.co/ski-trab-binding-toes November 17, 2019 at 5:25 am #843405 Snurfer 1448 Posts Hi @scooby2 I’m considering getting out on my old HB’s a time or two this season with my fishscaled board and these look like a great deal. Are you using the Spark adapters or did you build a preflex with the tech insert pattern? Shark Snowsurf Chuna Voile V-Tail 170 BC Voile One Ninety Five Spark R&D Arc November 18, 2019 at 9:27 am #843436 Scooby2 607 Posts Hey Snurfer, I haven’t put them on yet. For my current board that I’m still in love with, I was just going to make an adapter to voile pattern out of some aluminum stock that I have. It is all paulownia wood so screws are not the best idea. Next board, if I finish one for myself this winter, will just have some dense wood in the binding area and I’ll go with ski screws, my cores are like 13-14 mm thick so it works great. I’m not sure if the spark adapters work with the Trab hole pattern, ski bindings are not standardized at all. If you need some measurements to see, I can measure them for you. https://skimo.co/tech-binding-hole-patterns November 18, 2019 at 9:47 am #843437 Scooby2 607 Posts looks like the Spark adapters would work, maybe the Trabs are 30 x 27 and the Spark plate has a 30 x 26.5mm pattern among all the patterns it takes. nice, that’ll be way easier than drill tapping and cutting. I’d probably be off a half mm in every direction anyway, lol. November 18, 2019 at 6:24 pm #843449 Snurfer 1448 Posts Cool thanks! Tempting Shark Snowsurf Chuna Voile V-Tail 170 BC Voile One Ninety Five Spark R&D Arc November 22, 2019 at 8:27 am #843535 Snurfer 1448 Posts Wow, just saw these. Affordable and Voile built! https://www.voile.com/voile-splitboard-hardboot-bindings.html Shark Snowsurf Chuna Voile V-Tail 170 BC Voile One Ninety Five Spark R&D Arc November 30, 2019 at 8:43 pm #843760 Taylor 786 Posts I like the look of these new Voiles too. Nice and simple. @sun_rocket December 25, 2019 at 1:28 pm #844529 whistlermaverick 312 Posts Scooby2 wrote: I think I will get onto my hard boots for a ride this winter. I’m looking to shake weight, as well as improve safety so I have been on the prowl for a tech binding that would have chance at releasing in climb mode. These Gara bindings are pretty interesting. They don’t work on springs, but torque on the bar. They don’t have the easy step in of tech toes, you have to pressure the lever to get in, but they hold pretty firmly without being locked in. This seems like a big departure in the field, where most say you’ll step out of an unlocked binding in tour mode again and again. The manual says the bindings can be toured unlocked when in your own judgment you think it would be more safe. I got these from SKIMO, 135 each and got the blue ones, that look great. 66 grams each. https://skimo.co/ski-trab-binding-toes Hey Scooby2– How far does that lever stick out in ‘lock’ mode. I find my front foot is back against my Dynafit toe pieces and couldn’t take much more space. Is the lever very long? Do the Trab toes offer different tensions or is it just ‘lock’ or ‘unlocked’? Of concern if ya were to get taken out by a slide in the skin track, would want a release mechanism. Got pics of a full set up mounted? As to the Voile’s. They look alright, could be lighter, with a simple design, I don’t see any more benefit than the Phantom/Spark colab as there is no weight savings @j.memay December 26, 2019 at 11:27 am #844573 Scooby2 607 Posts the different thing about these Trab toe pieces is that they have a lot more tension in unlocked mode so, as I understand, you are supposed to be able to tour with them in the unlocked position “most of the time” without just walking out of them. My presumption is that if you took a small ride on ascent you might not shred a knee as compared to being locked in. There are no tension adjustments for the toe pieces. You could operate them without the black plastic levers, just pushing with your grip maybe on the metal curved end. Hard to say how far they’d be in front of your voile pattern inserts. I don’t have an adapter for them yet, I am mounting them in a custom board this winter with a layout tailored to my stance etc. I can take some measurements in a bit. 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