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  • #635545
    KGN
    215 Posts

    @WhitePine wrote:

    My skins are insanely difficult to get apart. They are way too tacky. I’m definitely going to try this method.

    Unfortunately it doesn’t help for when I have to separate them when I arrive at the trailhead.

    Why don’t you use those voile cheat sheet mesh things? They came with my skins, I use them all the time now. No problem pulling them apart.

    #635546
    WhitePine
    503 Posts

    @KGN wrote:

    @WhitePine wrote:

    My skins are insanely difficult to get apart. They are way too tacky. I’m definitely going to try this method.

    Unfortunately it doesn’t help for when I have to separate them when I arrive at the trailhead.

    Why don’t you use those voile cheat sheet mesh things? They came with my skins, I use them all the time now. No problem pulling them apart.

    I got the skins second hand and they came sans cheat sheets. I should go pick some up cause getting them apart this morning was ridiculous.

    #635547
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    I have well over 100 days on two sets of skins using the rolling method. no problem. Fold the skins at the end of the day otherwise I always roll them. If your skins are brand new you might get some fibers in them so if it’s a concern peel them apart a few times before rolling. And if you get some fibers stuck in the glue so what? That just makes them easier to work with. I have 5″ long strips of glue missing and rarely have skin problems. So I don’t buy the “fibers in my glue ruined my skins” story.
    Two tips
    -make sure any snow or excess moisture is removed from plush before rolling
    -you don’t have to roll super tight I roll them verly loosely and then smash into my pack and it works great.
    If you are having skin problems get a brown paper bag or parchment paper and iron your old glue it will give new life to old glopped up glue and is way easier and cheaper than a full reglue.

    Disclaimer- if you fuck your skins up by rolling them don’t blame me. 😉

    #635548
    nedrapier
    235 Posts

    Unfortunately it doesn’t help for when I have to separate them when I arrive at the trailhead.

    You could skin up before you leave the house? Easier to separate when they’re that wee bit warmer.

    #635549
    WhitePine
    503 Posts

    @nedrapier wrote:

    Unfortunately it doesn’t help for when I have to separate them when I arrive at the trailhead.

    You could skin up before you leave the house? Easier to separate when they’re that wee bit warmer.

    For some reason, mine seem more difficult and tacky when they are warm. I think I’ll try to recondition them with the parchment paper as wasatch surf recommended.

    #635550
    WhitePine
    503 Posts

    Absolutely loving the “Pinch and Roll”. And I’m not referring to the old Aquabats song.

    #635551
    philip.ak
    679 Posts

    I forgot my cheat sheets at home yesterday and did the pinch and roll technique while yo-yoing about 5 laps. I started rolling up from the tail so that when I unrolled I could hook the tip on the ski and they pretty much unrolled themselves. Slick. Also, when I rip my skins off the board I am holding the tail anyway, so it is the natural end to start rolling from. All in all it is a worthy technique to try.

    #635552
    nedrapier
    235 Posts

    I’ve used this before on shorter laps. Pretty handy time saver.

    A buddy saw what I was doing, tried himself then gave me hard time for ruining his skins when he left them rolled over night. More than a few orange hairs on the glue when he got them out the next morning. 😀

    #635553
    Huck Pitueee
    145 Posts

    I’m liking the roll method and working through the learning curve. You’re more likely to get snow on the glue because you’re working a whole skin instead of one third at a time. Late season I might not roll because we skin through mud, pollen, pine needles etc.

    #635554
    cmcquade
    34 Posts
    ImTired wrote:
    Pinch and roll is the name of the technique my buddy uses to scratch his balls.[/quote

    yes sir thats the whole point… a little play on words. who doesnt like the pinch n roll 🙂

    #635555
    cmcquade
    34 Posts

    @KGN wrote:

    Not sure if it matters for the life span of your skins or not, but I use those Volie cheat sheets mesh things when I go out to the backcountry, and when I store them overnight or whatever. Makes it pretty easy. I think if you even just used a thin strip of the cheat sheet mesh stuff, it would make it alot easier to pull apart. KInd of annoying to bring more stuff into the BC, but it really takes zero space.

    have you battled playing with cheat sheets when your on a summit prepping for a drop in high winds….once you do you wont bring your cheat sheets:) the pinch and roll is quick and and takes away calling your buddy over to help you pull em apart:)

    #635556

    Has anyone used this in the PNW or SUPER warm days touring? Mainly I ask because different regions have different skin issues, at least that is what I have noticed in the past haha

    My old skins are haggard and beaten, but I never have glue problems except when it is super cold (which for us up here is anything under 25 deg. My new skins are the Voile tractors and the glue is soooo much stickier than my old 3 season used CSD’s. I’d like to give it a try but all the people so far in this thread are from UT or CO and your snow is soo much colder and dryer than ours. If my glue touches my mohair, it def rips a good amount of fir off with it haha!

    Always looking for more efficient transitions, so I may just give it a shot! Most of the time we are touring in 28-34* temps with super heavy wet snow 😆

    #635557
    Maxwell Graham
    19 Posts

    I ride from Baker to Hood. No problems with hairs on the glue after rolling between laps. I’m using G3 alpinists.

    #635558
    Splitinbend
    243 Posts

    I have glue on my hairs. Works for really awesome friction. Helps build up my quads as I drag my shit. Any suggestions on how to remove tacky from the hairs? Voile skins.

    #635559
    Skin up
    14 Posts

    Another pinch and roller signing in here.

    We struggle to stay below freezing alot of the time here in Australia so I thought I better chime in for those worried about the warm weather pinch and roll. Just don’t leave them rolled for too long.

    Been doing it for a few years now on some of the older purple Voile Tractors and never had problems, even after a good re glue.

    I’d say it’s a better time saver than the Tesla sytem if i’d ever used the Tesla sytem, i’ll let you know.

    To un roll it does anyone do it like they’re cracking a whip? So quick but works better on warmer days.

    That move also needs a catchy name, something to do with S & M and bondage.

    Get your pinch on.

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