Forums Bindings the lightest setup everrrrrrrrrrrrr (hardboot)
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  • #653282
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    Yeah Jamie, I looked at those… but not being able to lock the toe piece seems like it would not work for everyone. And getting in and out seems like it will be much more of a pain than with a Dynafit toe. At 2.8 ozs. I think I will keep using my Dynafit Speed Ultralight toes…

    #653283
    ieism
    298 Posts

    Looks very trick. How much do you think the whole thing weighs including dyna touring stuff and pucks and screws?

    Or post some weights of your whole board including skins here:

    http://splitboard.com/talk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14047

    http://flatlandsplitfest.com/

    #653284
    vapor
    350 Posts

    The set up is bomber barrows(pun intended),6 years on the diy overlap pucks,and probably 8 years making alpine/split bindings.
    At this time im only making for local people as the workload has been crazy for me these past few months.

    ieism: Some things are light, other parts are not but my whole setup(163 rossi experience/standard dynatech/ voile skins and my bindings weigh in at 5672 grams. I could probably shave some more weight off going with a racing binding setup and will probably go with the bomber toecliplike inthemountains as the cam action on them are solid and lighter than my cateks that im using.

    #653285
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    Glad to hear it has bomber so far. Certainly DIY boards and/or DIY style pucks (as long as one uses enouigh screws) eliminate the stance and flex problems inherent in the Voile Universal puck design. The Volie baseplate is not long enough to provide proper sole support for my boots without adding some material. But hey, whatever works! Looking at those bails, I get a little nervous seeing the threaded shoulder mounts: how much captured thread depth is there, and are those 5mm bails with M5 threads or? I have bent the slider plates as well, and I am not a heavy guy (170-175 lbs) and I do not take big cliff drops or anything, just fairly normal riding in the backcountry… I could see your approach working really well with a carbon fiber slider plate, perhaps with a little more length to support the boot sole (at the heel) a little better for sizes over 27 or so… A carbon slider plate built to the same weight as the Voile would be a lot stronger, and would not bend.

    #653286
    stein
    174 Posts

    the bail hinges on the solid rod, not on the threads right?

    Very nice looking set up!

    #653287
    vapor
    350 Posts

    Bails thread in .312 so there is around 10 threads captured, engineering wise the first three threads actually do the work withthe rest becoming a safety factor.
    I cannot speak for finn at bomber industries but this method gets away from the sharp 90 bend used on other bail systems that is a weak point where bails tend to break.That said racers/ carvers will put way more stress on the equipment than we can generate and still use 5mm bails to dampen out the chatter and ruts
    stein: Yes the mounts pivot on the axle

    #653288
    stein
    174 Posts

    figured, I like it

    x2 about the first 3 threads holding the load

    #653289
    Scotty_E
    3 Posts

    “At this time im only making for local people as the workload has been crazy for me these past few months.”

    Vapor,
    This looks amazing. Big props. What is required to get on the list of prospective clients? I’m all in.

    #653292
    InTheMountains
    216 Posts

    After having these units in my greasy hands for the past few months, I figured it was time for a review.

    Overall I am really happy with them, they have served me extremely well on aprox 20 touring days. On the initial tests in my living room, they seemed quite snug on my boots, but in the cold when the plastic boot shrinks a bit, they are easier to “snap on”.
    It’s nice being so much closer to the board, I don’t feel like I’m on stilts anymore.
    Vapor claims a left and right; I can’t see a difference, but have no reason to doubt him and have marked them appropriately.

    I had to modify the pucks to allow clearance for the rear bail shaft. If you think before you cut, the mod does not prevent you from using those pucks with regular slider plates. I don’t know if Vapor did this intentionally, but I am glad the way it worked out.

    Pros:
    lightweight
    low profile – both on the board and in my pack
    reasonable cost – actually, cheap like borscht

    cons:
    they don’t work with softboots ( ha )
    mods required to puck ( prevents this from being “plug and play” )

    As I am no metalurgist, I can’t comment on the quality of his welding, but it looks good and the shits been holding up, so what can I say. And the rest of his work is excellent.

    All in all, I’m glad I sang out for a pair back in October. Did I say glad…should have said “orgasmic”.
    I’ve been digging them.

    Thanks Vape!
    :bananas: :bananas: :bananas: :bananas:

    gary

    #653291
    vapor
    350 Posts

    @inthemountains wrote:

    After having these units in my greasy hands for the past few months, I figured it was time for a review.

    Overall I am really happy with them, they have served me extremely well on aprox 20 touring days. On the initial tests in my living room, they seemed quite snug on my boots, but in the cold when the plastic boot shrinks a bit, they are easier to “snap on”.
    It’s nice being so much closer to the board, I don’t feel like I’m on stilts anymore.
    Vapor claims a left and right; I can’t see a difference, but have no reason to doubt him and have marked them appropriately.

    I had to modify the pucks to allow clearance for the rear bail shaft. If you think before you cut, the mod does not prevent you from using those pucks with regular slider plates. I don’t know if Vapor did this intentionally, but I am glad the way it worked out.

    Pros:
    lightweight
    low profile – both on the board and in my pack
    reasonable cost – actually, cheap like borscht

    cons:
    they don’t work with softboots ( ha )
    mods required to puck ( prevents this from being “plug and play” )

    As I am no metalurgist, I can’t comment on the quality of his welding, but it looks good and the shits been holding up, so what can I say. And the rest of his work is excellent.

    All in all, I’m glad I sang out for a pair back in October. Did I say glad…should have said “orgasmic”.
    I’ve been digging them.

    Thanks Vape!
    :bananas: :bananas: :bananas: :bananas:

    gary

    Thanks gary
    Can’t say i was shooting for orgasmic but glad your rockin them( Dave king told me yourriding a big swallowtail :thumpsup: )
    Now that the days are getting longer am going to get some good long tours in and should be heading your way

    #653290
    InTheMountains
    216 Posts

    @vapor wrote:

    Thanks gary
    Can’t say i was shooting for orgasmic but glad your rockin them( Dave king told me yourriding a big swallowtail :thumpsup: )
    Now that the days are getting longer am going to get some good long tours in and should be heading your way

    You seem to have spies out here! I don’t know if I’ve met Dave. But big swallowtail? I’d say so…190cm! It has been a great year for gear.
    gary

    #653293
    nwp
    5 Posts

    Hi,

    Hope this set of very light and strong (patented) Hard Boot Climbing Bindings can be interesting for various reasons:

    – cost (less than Dyna)
    – allow to go much ahead, so to balance perfectly the table

    http://www.maruelli.com/M2SPLITBOARD/M2SPLITBOARD.htm

    Thanks
    Ciao
    Stefano

    #653294
    burton
    329 Posts

    the new ones on ISPO wos black :thumpsup: only the crampon houlder is missing.

    bURTON

    #653295
    nwp
    5 Posts

    Ciao !

    I need just some weeks to recover from ispo than I’ll post Better picture, trimming plate & crampons holder…

    Nice to hear that someone already watch us !

    Ciao
    Stefano

    #653296
    Zude
    367 Posts

    What keeps the knob tight?

    #653297
    whistlermaverick
    312 Posts

    Welcome Stefano!!

    So everyone else on the forum is aware can you tell me if the hole pattern fits the Dynafit pattern?

    @j.memay

    #653298
    burton
    329 Posts

    here are a link to some downloads difrent hole pattern

    http://www.wildschnee.de/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=296&view=viewcategory&catid=1

    bURTON

    #653299
    lictor4
    63 Posts

    Is this too good to be true? It took quite a bit of force to spread the bails so they seem secure but do you think the holes will wear or tear?

    #653300
    FloImSchnee
    291 Posts

    So you remove the front bail for sliding the slider onto the pucks, and secure the slider by putting the front bail back in?

    #653301
    lictor4
    63 Posts

    Yep, that’s the idea

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