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  • #615822
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    Currently only one place in the country has demo boards, and it is here in Telluride.

    So remind me… what splitters live out there? Got couch? Hey is that near where you live bones? You gotta go try one out. :drool:

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #615823
    bones get broke
    298 Posts

    @SanFrantastico wrote:

    So remind me… what splitters live out there? Got couch? Hey is that near where you live bones? You gotta go try one out. :drool:

    I’ve got better than couch, I got spare room. :thumpsup:
    TRide is a little over 2 hrs away from where I live. I’m not sure about going over there to demo one though, I’ve kind of got my heart set on a new rockered Divide with the Zephyr board dimentions.

    #615824
    Jon Dahl
    384 Posts

    You callin’ me out?? Bwahaha, I gotta split a Tanker first, then maybe ride one of those Tom Burt’s 172’s!

    @SanFrantastico wrote:

    Sweet board & I’m kinda stoked on the graphics too. It’s like a Mountain Gun that would actually work in all conditions. I wish I were man enough to ride Tom Burt’s 172 but I’m afraid of it. I would love to give the ST166 a whirl some time.

    I think they’ll split anything, so when is Jon Dahl getting the swallowtail 184??

    #615825
    Nikon
    218 Posts

    @Jon Dahl wrote:

    You callin’ me out?? Bwahaha, I gotta split a Tanker first, then maybe ride one of those Tom Burt’s 172’s!

    Another Tanker rider? You got the full size 200? Things fast as hell huh?

    Out here we have too many close trees to ride the 200 BC so I’m not splitting mine. IF you do – post it cause I’d love to see it. Maybe if I had a second one I would but I’d rather the Burt Pro as a factory split….

    #615826
    Tom Burt
    52 Posts

    Hey from AK,

    I am stuck in a pounding snow storm so I found my way in to a computer.

    As far as my 4mm of taper in my board. I have had taper built in to my boards since the late 80’s. I have played with it and found for myself and the terrain I like to ride that a little taper works the best. It shifts the center of sidecut back, allows the core of the board to be shifted so the board gets a better flex pattern (softer longer nose flex with a stiffer tail flex) , allows the board to track well, allows the board to finish a turn down the fall line, get more float out of the nose than tail, and still ride well on the steeps when they are hard and not perfect.

    I hope this helps to understand why I have built my board this way.

    Tom

    #615827
    peacefrog
    376 Posts

    Tom,
    If the storms shutting you down in Haines come on down to juneau and hit Eaglecrest.
    btw also a big fan of a board being able to handle steep bad snow. We may all intend to ride powder but that’s not always how it ends up. I will add that I prefer a stiffer nose. It requires more rear leg work and/or speed, but gives you the ability to really dig that edge in without folding the board up or washing out.

    #615828
    Tom Burt
    52 Posts

    I would come and ride the crest I love that mountain, but I have things to do here.

    Anyway I did not say my nose was soft ( I hate boards that fold in the nose) it is just softer than the tail. Overall my board is very stiff. The reason I like a bit stiffer tail is that when you start your turn you have the least amount of G force energy of the turn but as the turn progresses you get both the G force of your turn and the weight of your body added in, so if you have a soft tail the board will want to bend more and you will have a turn that looks like J and want to finish across the hill not down the hill like an open C

    Anyway Keep rippen the Crest for me,

    Tom

    #615829
    Nikon
    218 Posts

    At least you’re stuck in some snow. Hope the trip is going well. Sounds like from the guy that posted here from the factory that the split version of the Pro is a go.?. Can I pre-order one? :bananas:

    Get some pics of the trip up for us that have no choice but to live vicariously through others. All the snow around here is melting fast. :banghead:

    #615830
    peacefrog
    376 Posts

    Sorry to hear about summer setting in on you Nikon,

    Here’s Eaglecrest current conditions
    Conditions:
    Updated:2009-03-27 08:02:56

    Description Base Top
    New Snow (24hrs) 6.2″ 8″
    New Snow (48hrs) 8″ 12″
    Total Snow 83 150
    Temp 30°F 25°F
    Wind 10 33

    And that’s the good wet stuff where 6″ is bottomless :headbang: :clap:

    #615831
    Nikon
    218 Posts

    @peacefrog wrote:

    Description Base Top
    New Snow (24hrs) 6.2″ 8″
    New Snow (48hrs) 8″ 12″
    Total Snow 83 150
    Temp 30°F 25°F
    Wind 10 33

    Jerk
    At my house:
    Tonight: Patchy fog after 2am. Otherwise, increasing clouds, with a low around 36. Calm wind.

    Saturday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 59. Calm wind becoming south between 4 and 7 mph.

    Sunday: Rain. High near 46. East wind around 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.

    Monday: A chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 44. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch possible.

    …and a flooded basement….

    #615832
    SchralphMacchio
    474 Posts

    @Fiddled wrote:

    4mm of taper? Just curious if that is a typo. Technically a tapered board but minimal.

    I’m with Tom on this. I had an older (2000?) Burton Supermodel with only about 4mm of taper (can’t remember exactly how much) and then I got a newer one with 10mm of taper. I found the larger taper to make the sidecut feel unnaturally deep and shifted back on firm snow. In anything deeper than 6 inches the large taper felt great but on firmer stuff I really didn’t like the way the edge initiated and the turn flowed. I really wonder how the Spearhead feels on crud with its 15mm of taper. The old Supermodel was great in corn, crust, or powder with just the minimal taper.

    Tom, I’m stoked to hear about the flex pattern, rocker, and shape in this board. What’s the camber (if any) and waist width? I take it there is no tail rocker?

    It’s also interesting to see that the photo of your split shows the nose as more rounded than the image of the production board on the website (could be a bad photo angle). I don’t know how a profiled nose feels compared to a flatter more rounded nose, I just like the look of them better 🙂

    Have good times in AK.

    #615833
    peacefrog
    376 Posts

    Nikon,

    Conditions:
    Updated:2009-03-30 08:16:24

    Description Base Top
    New Snow (24hrs) 7 6
    New Snow (48hrs) 13.6 6
    Total Snow 91 151
    Temp 29°F 24°F
    Wind 0 7

    And it’s a State holiday :bananas:
    If it makes you feel better I’m stuck behind a desk :banghead:

    #615834
    Nikon
    218 Posts

    @peacefrog wrote:

    Nikon,

    Conditions:
    Updated:2009-03-30 08:16:24

    Description Base Top
    New Snow (24hrs) 7 6
    New Snow (48hrs) 13.6 6
    Total Snow 91 151
    Temp 29°F 24°F
    Wind 0 7

    And it’s a State holiday :bananas:
    If it makes you feel better I’m stuck behind a desk :banghead:

    For the record – no that doesn’t make me feel better.

    #615835
    Jon Dahl
    384 Posts

    Another Tanker rider? You got the full size 200? Things fast as hell huh?

    Out here we have too many close trees to ride the 200 BC so I’m not splitting mine. IF you do – post it cause I’d love to see it. Maybe if I had a second one I would but I’d rather the Burt Pro as a factory split….[/quote]

    No, I’m on the 192 from ’03 season right now. I was, however, the second North American to ride the ’09/’10 protos. Start savin’ the greenbacks, very few will get the Anniversary 200 with metal in the mix. All the Tanker line will have rocker, as I call it, “done right”. At 5’7″ a 200 is just too much, unless I were headed to AK. Or somewhere else with big open pow fields.

    #615836
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    @SanFrantastico wrote:

    (I would have included Karkis’s comstock TR, but the pics are down. 😥 )

    Whew! :bananas: The comstock TR is back. I thought we had lost a classic.

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #615837
    Nikon
    218 Posts

    @Jon Dahl wrote:

    No, I’m on the 192 from ’03 season right now. I was, however, the second North American to ride the ’09/’10 protos. Start savin’ the greenbacks, very few will get the Anniversary 200 with metal in the mix. All the Tanker line will have rocker, as I call it, “done right”. At 5’7″ a 200 is just too much, unless I were headed to AK. Or somewhere else with big open pow fields.

    Got any pics of the 09/10? Can’t find it online. I don’t think that I could pony the bills for it since I have my heart set on the Tom Burt Pro Splitty. I’ll have to see if I can get a hookup though. I got my current tanker 200 for $250…

    #615838
    Tom Burt
    52 Posts

    Just thought I would give you a board update after my AK trip.

    I got to test out my board from flats to 55 dregree plus and everything in between. It rode great. I was riding with my full backcountry guide pack of 30 pounds plus and although the extra weight was put onto my board it handled it. In deep pow it floated, in the steeps it held its edge, in the crust it blew it apart and did not get hooked up like boards with lots of sidecut, and at speed it was a machine. In the split to board mode it fits together tight and easy ( the boys at Wagner Custom built a winner). I would say I am stoked.

    #615839
    Nikon
    218 Posts

    @Tom Burt wrote:

    Just thought I would give you a board update after my AK trip.

    I got to test out my board from flats to 55 dregree plus and everything in between. It rode great. I was riding with my full backcountry guide pack of 30 pounds plus and although the extra weight was put onto my board it handled it. In deep pow it floated, in the steeps it held its edge, in the crust it blew it apart and did not get hooked up like boards with lots of sidecut, and at speed it was a machine. In the split to board mode it fits together tight and easy ( the boys at Wagner Custom built a winner). I would say I am stoked.

    RAD! Glad it held up well. I’d say that I’m stoked for you too, especially since I fully plan on buying one.

    #615840
    sketchyT
    280 Posts

    @Tom Burt wrote:

    Just thought I would give you a board update after my AK trip.

    I got to test out my board from flats to 55 dregree plus and everything in between. It rode great. I was riding with my full backcountry guide pack of 30 pounds plus and although the extra weight was put onto my board it handled it. In deep pow it floated, in the steeps it held its edge, in the crust it blew it apart and did not get hooked up like boards with lots of sidecut, and at speed it was a machine. In the split to board mode it fits together tight and easy ( the boys at Wagner Custom built a winner). I would say I am stoked.

    Hey Tom,

    Really glad to see you on this board. Thanks for taking the time to share with us. Your board sounds awesome!

    Question: What is your boot-binding set up? I just got a pair of used mountianeering boots to try and just wanted to hear your opinion on hard plastic boots compared to regular soft boots. Do you have different types of set ups and use what will work best for the conditions? Or do always ride the same set up?

    Thanks!

    #615841
    Tom Burt
    52 Posts

    Hey Tom,

    Really glad to see you on this board. Thanks for taking the time to share with us. Your board sounds awesome!

    Question: What is your boot-binding set up? I just got a pair of used mountianeering boots to try and just wanted to hear your opinion on hard plastic boots compared to regular soft boots. Do you have different types of set ups and use what will work best for the conditions? Or do always ride the same set up?

    Thanks![/quote]

    On my split most of the time I am using a soft boot set up. I run Salamon F22 size 12 to take on my size 13 feet. F series are the smallest profile boots and they are the same legnth as most 10 and 1/2s. I am using Spark bindings or Gnu bindings on my splits. I also have a modified clicker step in set up, and a plastic boot set up. It all depends on what and where I am going to go and ride. They all have the good points and and bad. Soft set ups are better for weight shifting up and down(front to back) on your board while riding. Plastic boots tend to be more powerful on toe to heel and edge pressure. I suggest riding your set ups at the resort to see how they perform against one an other. Also be prepared to modify your plastics for foward lean, lateral movement, and flex. I rarely have a pair of boots that I do not modify to ride better.

    As far as boots in general
    The problem is that no company is willing to step up and make a new boot. On that note I was talking to Travis Rice out on the glacier in Alaska about the boot thing and he may be the man to get a new boot and binding going insted of this 1980’s9 (SOFT BOOT) designed boots we are riding now. The hard thing is boots are the most expensive thing to make and that is why it is the last thing to get developed. I hope to see something new in the next few years. Until then we all have to suffer with the current boots.

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