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  • #570529
    RIM climber
    2 Posts

    Any one have any input in to poles. New to the back country boarding thing and have never used poles for anything except fishing.

    I would think that a 3 piece would be best? :scratch:

    ~Thanks

    #609371
    deejayoh
    50 Posts

    BD Expedition Flicklocks seem to be the pole of choice. I have and love em. To the extent the sport requires poles

    #609372
    Shep
    525 Posts

    unless you are over 6’2″, get the compacts. they fit inside the pack for tree runs much better than the regular length.

    #609373
    bigdood
    457 Posts

    Most people here seem to have the BD 3 piece flicklock and a whippet.

    #609374
    nothingmuch
    358 Posts

    I’m like 6′ and actually the compacts were too short for me, because I like to use them pretty angled.

    Make sure to try em out at the store if you’re not sure, i use the standard size at almost full length most of the time, especially in snow but also for hiking.

    #609375
    RIM climber
    2 Posts

    Thanks! On order, I went with the compact ones. I am 5’8” so should be no issue.
    :thatrocks:

    #609376
    samh
    726 Posts

    @RIM climber wrote:

    Thanks! On order, I went with the compact ones. I am 5’8” so should be no issue.
    :thatrocks:

    Well I didn’t have time to chime in for you, RIM climber but perhaps anyone else reading this in the future might care that I too use a set of Black Diamond Poles. I have the Alpine CFs. They employ the bomber Flicklock system and are of reasonable weight for a collapsible pole system.

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    samh.net

    #609377
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Sounds like you ordered some but I’m going to use this opportunity to plug the new splitboard.com shop anyway. 🙂
    http://splitboard.com/site/ApproachTools.html

    #609378
    96avs01
    875 Posts

    While I agree that the Flicklock poles from BD are definitely a must (or the similar adjustment system now available from Komperdell (sp?)) I will interject the following. If you are looking for some poles that you plan to use in extremely cold environments I would definitely opt for the BD Trail poles over the BD Expedition poles (I do own both). The hard plastic grips of the Expedition poles seems to stay much colder than the foam grips of the Trail poles. This may not be a big deal on a day trip in nice weather, but if you really plan some touring trips in cold weather it will become less-than-ideal. The hard plastic grip of the Whippet is also my only gripe about that BD product, but it is still far superior to the alternative Grivel Condor IMHO. I’m done :soapbox:

    165 Venture Divide/Spark Frankenburners/La Sportiva Spantiks
    163W Jones Solution/Phantom Alphas/Dynafit TLT5s
    162 Furberg

    Chris

    #609379
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Interesting point Chris. While I haven’t used the Expedition poles in Alaska cold, I have used them in single digit temps and I can’t remember the grip temperature being an issue. Maybe I didn’t notice because I was too busy trying to keep the rest of my body warm. 🙂

    I do agree the poles on the Trail version are pretty comfy and I like the way they extend lower on the shaft. Does the foam ever absorb moisture? It seems like if they did and then it froze that could be an issue. I also seem to remember some durability issues with the Trail versions, or maybe it was the CFs.

    I heard Petzl had a flick lock style coming out too, maybe they meant Komerdell, or maybe both brands are doing something similar.

    #609380
    96avs01
    875 Posts

    @bcrider wrote:

    Does the foam ever absorb moisture? It seems like if they did and then it froze that could be an issue. I also seem to remember some durability issues with the Trail versions, or maybe it was the CFs.

    Water absorption hasn’t been a problem to date, even in the summer with sweaty palms they stay dry. Haven’t noticed any durability issues on the Trail poles, this will be their third season, and although cosmetically trashed they are still in good functional shape. If I remember right the CF only have only flicklock and one ‘button lock’? I personally don’t like having only one flicklock as the poles are somewhat limited in terms of how short one can make them.

    165 Venture Divide/Spark Frankenburners/La Sportiva Spantiks
    163W Jones Solution/Phantom Alphas/Dynafit TLT5s
    162 Furberg

    Chris

    #609381
    samh
    726 Posts

    @bcrider wrote:

    …Does the foam ever absorb moisture?…

    The handles are made of a closed-cell foam which will not absorb water. In fact the miniscule dimples in the outer edge of the foam will keep moisture away from your glove/hand and actually feel less damp than a smooth plastic surface which will keep moisture in direct contact with your person.

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    samh.net

    #609382
    Yoda
    264 Posts

    Petzl offers 3-section poles with FLICKLOCKS… http://en.petzl.com/petzl/SportProduits?Produit=89
    They come in 3 flavors… aluminum, titanal aluminum or carbon. I’ve seen these in person and they definately rival the BD poles. They are very simular to BD’s Trail and Alpine poles. :thumpsup:

    #609383
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    I just picked up the Alpine CF poles and I love them! They have the exact shape and size of the expedition, but they are 25% lighter. (16.7 oz / pair vs 22.5 oz)

    The grip is closed-cell foam, like on the Trail. It has the same grip shape as the expedition, perfect for prying open the climbing wire. They put a lightwieght grip tape material on the shaft below the grip. I’m not sure how I feel about that yet – I’ll have to see if it shreds my gloves, but it works well.

    At $130 vs $80 they were 33% more expensive. Saving weight at about $8.60 / oz.

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #609384
    stoudema
    551 Posts

    I’ve got the Alpine CF’s as well and really dig ’em. After using my Leki’s for several years, I had a pole snap on me. The CF’s light weight is really nice, especially on the longer approaches and over nights. The flick lock system for both adjustments is nice too – my buddy has the BD Spires, and the auto lock binary system locks too well in cold temps and freezes up.

    The tape below the grips is nice, especially when you’re traversing uphill and need to adjust your grip. Hasn’t seemed to hurt my gloves yet either. Also, if you look around, you can occasionally get them for a pretty good price (20% off sales, etc.). I picked up mine last year for $100.

    #609385
    Flying Scotsman
    23 Posts

    So REI are having their clearance sale and have carbon poles for $54 and some other Alu TWIST locks for $34. I just couldn’t bring myself to buy them, I have to bash the crap out of my Leki’s twist locks to get them to collapse. Figured the carbon ones would be too flimsy so I took you guys’ advice and got the BD expeditions Standard since since I’m 6ft.

    Kittery Trading post at $59 with free shipping.

    They should be tough.

    Ta!

    #609386
    deejayoh
    50 Posts

    I picked up a pair of BD flicklock “trekking poles” for $43 at the REI outlet sale. Add a pair of $5 powder baskets and Wa-La! Cheap poles!

    I like that the trekking poles have the grip that comes further down the pole. Works great for skinning along a steep pitch

    http://www.rei.com/outlet/product/784402

    #609387
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    Ooops! I cracked the handle off of my Alpine CF pole on only the second use. It happened while I was using the handle to pry up a heel lifter. It was in powder and the lifter was kinda stuck and the pole was flexing a bit and it just occurred to me that I was being stupid when the handle cracked off. The same thing happened to scruffy and his new set of poles, too. We’ll see what Black Diamond has to say. I replaced the broken section with an aluminum upper piece so I will be able to pry up the heel lifter and still be lighter overall.

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #609388
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    Anyone ever try the BD Contour Elliptic? I battle carpal tunnel, and a lot of poling definately aggravates it-these poles have an “ergonomic” bend to the grip, I guess it could not hurt to try them. I can get away with the compact, I never have any problem with my Life Links (except breaking) and they are only 49″ at full extension.

    #609389
    96avs01
    875 Posts

    @barrows wrote:

    Anyone ever try the BD Contour Elliptic? I battle carpal tunnel, and a lot of poling definately aggravates it-these poles have an “ergonomic” bend to the grip, I guess it could not hurt to try them. I can get away with the compact, I never have any problem with my Life Links (except breaking) and they are only 49″ at full extension.

    Are you forcefully griping the poles? I was taught to cradle the handle in your grip and put the pressure on the bottom interior of the wrist loops to better distribute the pressure/weight to your skeletal system. But, I guess if the orientation of your hand/wrist is the source of the problem while using trekking poles then you may see relief from a positive handle angle.

    165 Venture Divide/Spark Frankenburners/La Sportiva Spantiks
    163W Jones Solution/Phantom Alphas/Dynafit TLT5s
    162 Furberg

    Chris

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