Forums Boots Phantom Slipper Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total) Author Posts July 27, 2020 at 12:10 pm #853631 summersgone 820 Posts Finally someone has released a hardboot specific boot. I am on the list to get one of these and really stoked to see them. I’ve been on Phantom bindings for 7-8 years now and they make amazing stuff. I am guessing this boot will be outstanding and I am guessing that John and Phantom crew have it completely dialed. I know John has multiple years prototyping this thing, and since hes a rocket scientist, I trust his engineering. For me, I am upgrading from a Dynafit TLT6 with full mods. This will be pretty rad to just take it out the box and put it on. I have a couple friends on the Link Lever and rave about it, so I’m excited to see and try these. I don’t know exact weights, but guessing a 27 comes in around 1000g per boot. For me thats 250g off each foot. Thats really big. What are everyones thoughts? Except BGNight, because he hates all things hardbooting. July 28, 2020 at 11:07 am #853656 96avs01 875 Posts Looks very intriguing! Sadly won’t be in my near-term future with the wife unemployed and myself partially furloughed. Definitely interested to hear folks initial impressions. Many thanks John/Phantom! 165 Venture Divide/Spark Frankenburners/La Sportiva Spantiks 163W Jones Solution/Phantom Alphas/Dynafit TLT5s 162 Furberg Chris August 3, 2020 at 1:03 pm #853797 Taylor 794 Posts summersgone wrote: Finally someone has released a hardboot specific boot. What are everyones thoughts? Except BGNight, because he hates all things hardbooting. So sweet – I think this boot marks an important point in the evolution of splitboarding equipment. It looks fantastic–light, minimalist and engineered for the flex requirements of snowboarding. I too have been on Phantom for several years now, and because their culture of quality is second to none, I expect any product that they release to be very well sorted. And yeah, this will make BGnight very colicky, and not just because (unless I’m mistaken) he works for a soft-boot binding company. @sun_rocket August 7, 2020 at 9:09 pm #853941 Method 151 Posts They look like backlands with a phantom sticker. Happy to be corrected. August 10, 2020 at 9:35 am #854018 summersgone 820 Posts This forum doesn’t work very well anymore. I can’t tell if I double posted or what. But here was my response. Well, that is because simply put they are, but there is a whole lot more going on with them to be made for splitboarders. I think it would be a bit unreasonable for a small company of just a couple employees to build molds and create a boot from scratch, so makes sense they just improved on what they have been doing in the future. Might as well leverage a company that has been doing this for a long time. I don’t know exactly, but from looking at pictures and comparing models to the backlands, it seems they started with an Atomic Backland Ultimate upper and lower, which is a ridiculously light boot and added their link Lever. Then they changed the location of the lower buckle to keep your heel in place, most needed on toeside turns. It also looks that they used the buckles from the sport model with some modifications, ditched the velcrow top strap for only 2 straps, which will made transitions simple and easy. They changed the liner to have a warmer one than the ultimates (made for uphill racing). And for bigger folks, they beefed up the upper cuff to the backland carbon version. To me, it looks like they have made a durable, light model boot made specifically for splitboarding, not just strapping a sticker onto an atomic. It will be interesting to see how they work with Atomic more in the future. I think some visualization side could be cleaned up like removing the bottom hole where the buckle previously was, and getting the buckles black would be awesome. November 2, 2020 at 7:58 am #858260 moridinbg 151 Posts So it’s a pre-modded Backlands. Not necessarily a bad thing, but still not a splitboard specific boot. November 17, 2020 at 3:57 am #858998 Chewbacca 100 Posts In my opinion that is being a bit picky. But it is true to some extent. Perhaps there is a better interface for the ride mode that still needs to be invented, but this is the closest there is to a splitboard specific boot. All of the softboot solutions seem either over engineered or just stiff softboots to me. November 23, 2020 at 8:33 am #859216 summersgone 820 Posts I just got my Slippers in. Couple first very initial impressions. It looks damn clean and its pretty awesome to not have to take a dremel to a new boot. Huge props to Phantom for innovating a boot designed around splitboarding. Fit – I wear a 9 street shoe and got a 27/27.5. This matched the size of my TLT6. The boot comes setup was 27.5, but comes with a volumizer that will convert it to a 27. I use superfeet and put that in and decided I am going to keep it without the volumizer. I have more area in the toe box than my TLTs and it feels more like a traditional snowboard boot around the toe which should be good for more control, as well as allow toes to be warmer. Also the last feels about the same or slightly wider than my TLT6s. I also don’t think I need to mold these, they do really feel like slippers. Weight – Each boot weighs 1045g. This is with a green superfeet insole in it. This is 180g less than my modified TLT6s. It’s also my first time playing with the link lever. That is a cool piece of engineering and the ability to adjust forward lean is pretty rad. The forward lean is so much better than my previous TLTs on the carpet. Very curious to see how this rides on snow, which I am sure will be stellar. From the TLT6 to the Slippers, I now have 3 steps to deal with on transitions (each buckle and the link lever). It would have been sweet to see the upper buckle and link lever integrated. I personally like to tour with the upper buckles open, and the bottom closed snug enough for my feet to feel snug but still breath. On my TLT’s I typically cranked down 2 steps on the lower for the down. But transitions likely will still be faster as the boot works better with my OR trailbreaker pants. With my TLT’s I constantly had to pull the pants and powder gaiter up and down for buckle access and with these I no longer do. Also really stoked to see Phantom send 1 spare screw for each screw that could fall out. Thats a nice little touch to add to the repair kit for worst case scenarios. Stoked to get these on snow! Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total) You must be logged in to reply to this topic.