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  • #568369
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    Welcome. This starts an official CONDITIONS thread for the ’06-07 season in Northern Vermont. Thanks for checking in.

    FYI, please limit the general area of discussion to the higher terrain along the spine of the Greens from approx VT Route 125 (Middlebury Gap) north to VT Route 242 (Jay Peak & Pass). This includes the Green Mountain National Forest, Breadloaf Wilderness, CHSP, Mount Mansfield State Forest, and the resort areas and surrounding terrain near Sugarbush, Bolton, Stowe, Smugglers’, and Jay. Any reports for southern Vermont should be posted elsewhere.

    I live year-round in Middlesex, VT and am happy to post local inside info regarding snow conditions and mountain weather here. Others are encouraged to post and reply. Stay tuned — 😉

    #592921
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    Happy holidays everyone.

    As we move into the Christmas and New Years week, things are still pretty quiet. We’ve had a rough go at it so far, but remain optimistic for a good season.

    All resorts mentioned above are now open, but are skiing and riding on fairly limited terrain. Check out this link and save it as a favorite for the winter season: http://www.skivermont.com/conditions/ if interesed. Please keep in mind that this info is coming straight from the resort marketing departments, not from meteorologists. Always cross-reference this info with National Weather Service reports and local observations.

    Currently, there is no significant snow at elevation. We need a couple good dumps to even get a base going, then we can start talking. Until then, keep your fingers crossed.

    It looks like the long stretch of unseasonably warm air is finally about to break with a shift in the northern jet. The NWS out of Burlington is forecasting colder, more seasonable temps to round out the end of this week and 2006. In addition, a winter storm watch has been posted for late Chirstmas night through Tuesday 12/26 for possible accumulations exceeding 6″, primarily in the N. Dacks and N. VT. I know it’s not much, but at this point we could use anything we can get.

    Sugarbush was the last resort to report any new snow with 6″ just a few days ago, and confirmed.

    We had rain and warm temps on Fri/Sat and cooler temps and some light snow showers today with less than and inch or two at highest elevations.

    Keep in touch.

    Peace – vtbackcountry

    #592922
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    hi. only a few inches to report as of 10 am tuesday, even at elevation and at most n. vt resorts. 3 inches to report at base of mt hunger this morning at around 1800 ft.

    still…

    ORLEANS-ESSEX-LAMOILLE-CALEDONIA-WASHINGTON-
    INCLUDING THE CITIES OF…NEWPORT…ISLAND POND…JOHNSON…
    STOWE…ST. JOHNSBURY…MONTPELIER
    351 AM EST TUE DEC 26 2006

    …WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 AM EST
    WEDNESDAY…

    A WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1 AM EST
    WEDNESDAY FOR NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST VERMONT.

    4 TO 8 INCHES OF SNOW IS STILL EXPECTED TO FALL THROUGH MIDNIGHT
    WEDNESDAY. SNOW MAY BE HEAVY AT TIMES THIS AFTERNOON.

    PLEASE STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO…YOUR LOCAL MEDIA…OR
    GO TO http://WWW.WEATHER.GOV/BURLINGTON FOR FURTHER UPDATES ON THIS
    WEATHER SITUATION.

    #592923
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    totally shanked, as of late tues night 12/26…

    very little new snow to report, storm never materialized.

    #592924
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    rode mansfield at stowe this morning (thurs) in-bounds w/ another new 4-5″.

    was good, we’ll take it, on top of a few inches from the night before. a bit colder and brisk today, with breaks of sun and a cloudline around 3200′. should clear out tonight and stay cold. still, pretty icy under new snow. lots of people around w/ holiday week, just hammering it.

    anyway, it’s starting to look like winter here. the bc has close to a foot of natural right now, but still WAY too soon to jump in. ranch valley xc trails haven’t opened yet, but soon i’m sure.

    stay tuned.

    #592925
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    bluebird today, chilly start at 18 degrees. toured into ranch valley (stowe xc) to botom of steeple & bruce trails on teles, just enough coverage at around 6″ natural. stayed below freezing today especially at elevation, nice for a change. still,, will be a while until bruce is ready for sure but things look a lot better than they did last week. stowe xc trails are still closed.

    rt 108 thru smuggs notch looks good with road closed and covered, but still needs more snow for any turns. fine for touring through to jeffersonville, great w/ dogs on skijouring gear.

    keep your fingers crossed. forecast looks good next 10 days.

    i hope i’m not talking to myself here, anyone even interested in this thread? happy to continue, as season has been slow to start and know some are wondering. looks like the views are there, so will continue…

    #592926
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    woke this morning to another few inches of new snow at the house. it’s snowing hard right now and 14 degrees, expected to continue. looks like a good day for another recon mission.

    we’re slowing looking better everyday…

    #592927
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    another 6-8″ today at mid-elevations, very dry low-density snow. accumulations are spread evenly.

    currently, the natural snow base in the bc is anywhere from 6-14″, lowest elevation to highest.

    things look nice. did another light tour today in the worcester range, but still on tele skis and skins.

    #592928
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    widespread warmup and mist/light rain all day today with a serious zipper crust from last night. entire snowpack is now saturated, even at elevation. this ends the fun we’ve had kicking around the past week with the new snow. what a tease, today was downright miserable.

    nws shows next 10-14 days still looking warm. will post more when things change for the better…

    #592929
    BigJay
    342 Posts

    Dec 28th: Skinned to the top of Jay. Not much snow on the trails but the woods are packing up. People ride Beaver Pond even tough there is no base at all… you could see scrapings of the base all over the woods…

    Dec 29th: Went mountain biking around Jay Village. You could ride the trails because there was less then 4in at 1200ft!

    Dec 30th: Went to Jay for some snowshoeing around the West bowl to explore some new lines… About 12-14in of snow on top of very hard crud. Snow is really light so you sink to the bottom. No time to take the board out unless you just don’t care about the board AND your safety!

    Dec 31st: Went riding at Sutton. Everything on the mountain was rideable without any damage thanks to a soft ground made of grass instead of rocks! Enjoyed 12-14in of snow on from lift no IV to no. VII. Amazing day! Snow was heavier then at Jay so you could get a good lift. Took the lifts because it was only 25$CAN until the 31st… (second ticket this season!)

    Jan 1st: After the little rain and freezing stuff, i went to climb Gilpin (sp?) and was really depressed about the lack of snow below 2500ft. THere is less then 8in of snow there… Once you reach the top (about 3000ft) there is a good base of 14in. The warmth really helped the snow pack up and now things could be rideable… But we’ll need new snow for it to be fun. Didn’t see any interesting lines… We need snow bad!

    Jan 4th: Mountain biking again around Jay and Newport. Less then 1in at low elevation. No new snow to report…

    #592930
    3snowboards
    82 Posts

    Nice reports! Keep them coming. As a former greenmountaineer I gotta hope only for the best for you guys.

    #592931
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    toured at elevation yesterday (1/4) around ch. a good day, just scoping things out. snow was greasy and wet, 48 degrees w/ sunny skies. still a staunch zipper crust around, especially on north aspects earlier in the day.

    a shallow snowpack (<8") exists below 2500' with lots of exposure. above 3000' the snowpack is 10-14" and saturated, yet just rideable on north thru east aspects (barely). an inevitable drop in temps should help lock things in at higher elevations and create a base to build on, with lower elevation terrain remaining pokey. be aware.

    raining hard right now and foggy. looking for cooler temps again…

    #592932
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    rained HARD all night long.

    seeking a change in all this.

    #592933
    BigJay
    342 Posts

    Finally some snow on the ground.

    Jay received 8in in the last 48H and should receive more in the coming couple of days. Things above 2500ft should start being rideable… I’ll be touring in the Jay area most likely on sunday if temps keep below freezing and snow keeps pounding… If so, i’ll have a complete report with detailed pics.

    Next week should start with a good snow event also…

    #592934
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    rode jay in-bounds yesterday, 6-8″ i’d say. a good day overall, no complaints. still picking trails carefully, as many lost ALL coverage last week w/ rains. groomers were nice with good coverage in general, and only a few icy spots.

    trails w/ little existing or only new snow were still boney w/ rocks and ice. some glades are close and north aspects have held some snow from last week. had to jump in to see, but ended up being pretty sketchy. d, bj & pass still need snow, no tracks to speak of yet.

    stay tuned, long term weather looks good.

    #592935
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    colder today, upcoming system looks interesting. could be winter knocking again…

    monday 1/15 should be ON, in-bounds at least. will be crowded with holiday skiers though.

    get on it early.

    #592936
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    first impulse of moderate snow arrived early am today (sunday), 3″ new at 1800′ base of mt. hunger and still snowing steady. should taper off this afternoon with a lull between next, stronger low riding along the front to arrive late tonight. this system will produce our first big snow event of the season. mountains could easily pick up a foot plus over the next two days, stayed tuned.

    snow showers may continue thru the week and it will be COLD. higher elevation north aspects could be good for some turns thru mid-week, but be especially alert for exposed or hidden rocks, trees, etc. there’s not much base out there right now.

    fyi, two great links below to bookmark for vt bc and current weather info:

    http://www.erh.noaa.gov/btv/html/winter.shtml

    http://www.srh.noaa.gov/data/BTV/AFDBTV

    have fun with the shorthand, more reports to follow —

    #592937
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    hiked to 3600′ in n ctrl vt and did a split tour around a north aspect this morning during the storm. checked out some short glades and chutes. glades were ride-able, chutes were not. a great day. about 5″ new with a fast, sugary top.

    #592938
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    split both elmore and jay pass today. this am, elmore had 4″ w/ a real good zipper crust but still fun. jay pass was super sweet this afternoon, a good 10″ w/ slight crust along w/ 2″ more thru today. glad i was riding. took 3 laps, game on for sure. other skiers were out.

    #592939
    vtbackcountry
    440 Posts

    another 3-4″ over the past couple days, still snowing steady with heavy squalls today and 4″+ new so far. snow machine is now ON at jay w/ forecasted increasing northwest flow and strong orographic lift thru sat night. should give them another 8-12″++ by sun am. yee-haw…

    areas north of route 2 now have a decent base in the backcountry (w/ 12-20″ at elevation) and we’re riding the glades there. central vermont is a bit thin still with barely 8-14″ in the bc. buried zipper crust too. if touring to ride, stay high. still running into water at lower elevations.

    resorts conditions are getting better, but things are still firm. this new snow will help.

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