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  • #576358
    whistlermaverick
    312 Posts

    I’m looking at getting a hard boot(dynafit??) set up next year.

    Interested in Barrows boot mods,and Vapor’s titanium plate.

    Karakoram and now Spark(Edison) have bindings that are no longer using pucks.

    Am I a blind soft booter who has not seen a similar fixed plate option?
    Can you tell me if someone has one.
    Would it be beneficial, and if so, why isn’t there one yet?

    Got some more questions, but I’ll start with this.

    @j.memay

    #651600
    christoph benells
    717 Posts

    @whistlermaverick wrote:

    why isn’t there one yet?

    because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!

    haha just kidding folks.

    #651601
    firstlight
    721 Posts

    Id be another on the list.
    Have thought about making a Spark style base for HB but like CB as pointed out prob only sell 10 sets.

    My :twocents:

    Adam West

    www.firstlightsurfboards.com.au
    www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au
    www.splitfest.com.au
    www.snowsafety.com.au
    www.mrbc.com.au
    www.backcountryglobal.com
    www.alpinefirstaid.com.au

    #651602
    Snurfer
    1448 Posts

    @christoph benells wrote:

    @whistlermaverick wrote:

    because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!

    haha just kidding folks.

    BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…

    Buell
    Barrows
    Firstlight
    SogNar
    Vapor
    Powder_Rider
    hyzerbomber
    mcduff
    norriega
    ale_capone
    keffler
    ibisbiking
    karkis
    Wasatch_Don
    shasta
    aliasptr
    Pow-D-Rider
    b0ardski
    treepilot
    Wasatch Surf
    UTAH
    Snurfer

    Shark Snowsurf Chuna
    Voile V-Tail 170 BC
    Voile One Ninety Five
    Spark R&D Arc

    #651603
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    @snurfer wrote:

    @christoph benells wrote:

    @whistlermaverick wrote:

    because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!

    haha just kidding folks.

    BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…

    Buell
    Barrows
    Firstlight
    SogNar
    Vapor
    Powder_Rider
    hyzerbomber
    mcduff
    norriega
    ale_capone
    keffler
    ibisbiking
    karkis
    Wasatch_Don
    shasta
    aliasptr
    Pow-D-Rider
    b0ardski
    treepilot
    Wasatch Surf
    UTAH
    Snurfer

    StaggerLee
    mej
    singlewhitecaveman

    #651604
    Swedish-banana
    147 Posts

    A little of topic but I hope you dont mind.

    I have never tried a hard boot set up.
    Is it that beneficial? I know it is lighter but anything else?
    If I get the chance I will try some on.

    #651605
    firstlight
    721 Posts

    Alright then

    I’m on the case.
    I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
    This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
    I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
    What you we be willing to pay?
    Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
    Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
    What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
    Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
    Cheers

    Adam West

    www.firstlightsurfboards.com.au
    www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au
    www.splitfest.com.au
    www.snowsafety.com.au
    www.mrbc.com.au
    www.backcountryglobal.com
    www.alpinefirstaid.com.au

    #651606
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    @firstlight wrote:

    Alright then

    I’m on the case.
    I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
    This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
    I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
    What you we be willing to pay?
    Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
    Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
    What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
    Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
    Cheers

    the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.

    #651607
    buell
    534 Posts

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    @snurfer wrote:

    @christoph benells wrote:

    @whistlermaverick wrote:

    because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!

    haha just kidding folks.

    BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…

    Buell
    Barrows
    Firstlight
    SogNar
    Vapor
    Powder_Rider
    hyzerbomber
    mcduff
    norriega
    ale_capone
    keffler
    ibisbiking
    karkis
    Wasatch_Don
    shasta
    aliasptr
    Pow-D-Rider
    b0ardski
    treepilot
    Wasatch Surf
    UTAH
    Snurfer

    StaggerLee
    mej
    singlewhitecaveman

    p06781
    snowman1
    Locster
    Unruly Baker?
    my wife (who does not post here)

    #651608
    buell
    534 Posts

    @firstlight wrote:

    Alright then

    I’m on the case.
    I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
    This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
    I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
    What you we be willing to pay?
    Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
    Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
    What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
    Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
    Cheers

    I am size 25mondo and my wife is 23 mondo.

    Price I would pay is dependent on quality and design. A quality, secure binding is absolutely required for me.

    #651609
    firstlight
    721 Posts

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    @firstlight wrote:

    Alright then

    I’m on the case.
    I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
    This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
    I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
    What you we be willing to pay?
    Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
    Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
    What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
    Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
    Cheers

    the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.

    I was going for adjustable plate in two sizes at the begining.
    That way you can make them fit all diiferent boot makers actual overall boot outer sizes.
    My 27.5 Scarpa/Garmont/Raichle boots all have different lenghts, only a small adjustment.
    Ill see what $ they would come out at for around 20 sets

    Cheers

    Adam West

    www.firstlightsurfboards.com.au
    www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au
    www.splitfest.com.au
    www.snowsafety.com.au
    www.mrbc.com.au
    www.backcountryglobal.com
    www.alpinefirstaid.com.au

    #651610
    whistlermaverick
    312 Posts

    @firstlight wrote:

    Alright then

    I’m on the case.
    I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
    This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
    I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
    What you we be willing to pay?
    Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
    Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
    What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
    Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
    Cheers

    Screw the voile style puck.
    Something that fix’s to the board(Karakoram/Edison style).
    All it needs to do is fit the split hole pattern, after that it’s up to your imagination.
    Then a thin plate that locks on to it. Bails adjustable(??) and integrated in to the plate. Boot sitting as close as possible, if not on the plate.

    If I get an AT boot I don’t want the bottom of it to be 1.5 inches off my board, it’s sole is high enough already.
    I want to be close to my board, I don’t like being high off it.

    @j.memay

    #651611
    splitchef
    44 Posts

    @buell wrote:

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    @snurfer wrote:

    @christoph benells wrote:

    @whistlermaverick wrote:

    because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!

    haha just kidding folks.

    I
    BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…

    Buell
    Barrows
    Firstlight
    SogNar
    Vapor
    Powder_Rider
    hyzerbomber
    mcduff
    norriega
    ale_capone
    keffler
    ibisbiking
    karkis
    Wasatch_Don
    shasta
    aliasptr
    Pow-D-Rider
    b0ardski
    treepilot
    Wasatch Surf
    UTAH
    Snurfer

    StaggerLee
    mej
    singlewhitecaveman

    p06781
    snowman1
    Locster
    Unruly Baker?
    my wife (who does not post here)

    Splitchef reprezenting in the San Juan’s!

    #651612
    JimmyC
    351 Posts

    Add JimmyC to the HB list.

    I would like to keep using my Dynafit toe pieces in tour mode–and am currently considering direct mounting Plum Guide toe and heel pieces. I would be quite willing to pay for a solid binding that lowered my boot (27.5) position on the board by 0.5 inches or so. I really like the feel (i..e lateral flex) of my Bomber Sidewinders—but I do wish that I could could drop the boot height.

    #651613
    HikeforTurns
    1113 Posts

    I would buy if they were good quality and super low profile. Voile pucks would be OK with me.

    #651614
    rughty
    620 Posts

    Triad plates will be much better/lighter than the voile plates. I have started up a project with OCD. His will include highbacks and bring mountaineering boot riding as an option for those who are interested in going that route.

    #651615
    treepilot
    352 Posts

    @splitchef wrote:

    @buell wrote:

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    @snurfer wrote:

    @christoph benells wrote:

    @whistlermaverick wrote:

    because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!

    haha just kidding folks.

    I
    BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…

    Buell
    Barrows
    Firstlight
    SogNar
    Vapor
    Powder_Rider
    hyzerbomber
    mcduff
    norriega
    ale_capone
    keffler
    ibisbiking
    karkis
    Wasatch_Don
    shasta
    aliasptr
    Pow-D-Rider
    b0ardski
    treepilot
    Wasatch Surf
    UTAH
    Snurfer

    StaggerLee
    mej
    singlewhitecaveman

    p06781
    snowman1
    Locster
    Unruly Baker?
    my wife (who does not post here)

    Splitchef reprezenting in the San Juan’s!

    MangyMoose + his wife
    a regular partner who doesn’t post here

    and after a demo for Matt a.d., I think him and mrash will be jumping ship too.

    definitely time for a custom hard boot plate. Ditch the pucks, or use bails wide enough to go on the outside of the pucks, rather than on top.

    #651616
    vapor
    350 Posts

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    @firstlight wrote:

    Alright then

    I’m on the case.
    I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
    This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
    I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
    What you we be willing to pay?
    Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
    Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
    What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
    Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
    Cheers

    the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.

    Wow, don’t know how i missed this thread.
    The binding I made last year works perfect but isn’t cost effective to produce.
    I’ve pretty much rested up from this falls board building episode so i’ll put some thought into it and see what i can come up with.
    Right now i’ve got some ideas but they would be custom. and would have to develop bending dies for the bales as well as do some destructive testing before selling to anybody.

    #651617
    treepilot
    352 Posts

    @vapor wrote:

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    @firstlight wrote:

    Alright then

    I’m on the case.
    I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
    This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
    I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
    What you we be willing to pay?
    Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
    Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
    What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
    Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
    Cheers

    the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.

    Wow, don’t know how i missed this thread.
    The binding I made last year works perfect but isn’t cost effective to produce.
    I’ve pretty much rested up from this falls board building episode so i’ll put some thought into it and see what i can come up with.
    Right now i’ve got some ideas but they would be custom. and would have to develop bending dies for the bales as well as do some destructive testing before selling to anybody.

    Pics?

    #651618
    vapor
    350 Posts

    @treepilot wrote:

    @vapor wrote:

    @wasatch surf wrote:

    @firstlight wrote:

    Alright then

    I’m on the case.
    I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
    This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
    I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
    What you we be willing to pay?
    Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
    Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
    What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
    Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
    Cheers

    the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.

    Wow, don’t know how i missed this thread.
    The binding I made last year works perfect but isn’t cost effective to produce.
    I’ve pretty much rested up from this falls board building episode so i’ll put some thought into it and see what i can come up with.
    Right now i’ve got some ideas but they would be custom. and would have to develop bending dies for the bales as well as do some destructive testing before selling to anybody.

    Pics?

    i will. ordered some material and its on its way.

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