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February 12, 2012 at 5:48 am #576358
whistlermaverick
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I’m looking at getting a hard boot(dynafit??) set up next year.
Interested in Barrows boot mods,and Vapor’s titanium plate.
Karakoram and now Spark(Edison) have bindings that are no longer using pucks.
Am I a blind soft booter who has not seen a similar fixed plate option?
Can you tell me if someone has one.
Would it be beneficial, and if so, why isn’t there one yet?
Got some more questions, but I’ll start with this.
@j.memay
February 12, 2012 at 7:37 pm #651600
christoph benells
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@whistlermaverick wrote:
why isn’t there one yet?
because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!
haha just kidding folks.
February 12, 2012 at 10:11 pm #651601
firstlight
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Id be another on the list.
Have thought about making a Spark style base for HB but like CB as pointed out prob only sell 10 sets.
My :twocents:
Adam West
www.firstlightsurfboards.com.au
www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au
www.splitfest.com.au
www.snowsafety.com.au
www.mrbc.com.au
www.backcountryglobal.com
www.alpinefirstaid.com.au
February 12, 2012 at 10:45 pm #651602
Snurfer
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@christoph benells wrote:
@whistlermaverick wrote:
because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!
haha just kidding folks.
BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…
Buell
Barrows
Firstlight
SogNar
Vapor
Powder_Rider
hyzerbomber
mcduff
norriega
ale_capone
keffler
ibisbiking
karkis
Wasatch_Don
shasta
aliasptr
Pow-D-Rider
b0ardski
treepilot
Wasatch Surf
UTAH
Snurfer
Shark Snowsurf Chuna
Voile V-Tail 170 BC
Voile One Ninety Five
Spark R&D Arc
February 12, 2012 at 11:28 pm #651603
wasatch surf
Participant
@Snurfer wrote:
@christoph benells wrote:
@whistlermaverick wrote:
because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!
haha just kidding folks.
BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…
Buell
Barrows
Firstlight
SogNar
Vapor
Powder_Rider
hyzerbomber
mcduff
norriega
ale_capone
keffler
ibisbiking
karkis
Wasatch_Don
shasta
aliasptr
Pow-D-Rider
b0ardski
treepilot
Wasatch Surf
UTAH
Snurfer
StaggerLee
mej
singlewhitecaveman
February 12, 2012 at 11:47 pm #651604
Swedish-banana
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A little of topic but I hope you dont mind.
I have never tried a hard boot set up.
Is it that beneficial? I know it is lighter but anything else?
If I get the chance I will try some on.
February 13, 2012 at 2:21 am #651605
firstlight
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Alright then
I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers
Adam West
www.firstlightsurfboards.com.au
www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au
www.splitfest.com.au
www.snowsafety.com.au
www.mrbc.com.au
www.backcountryglobal.com
www.alpinefirstaid.com.au
February 13, 2012 at 3:10 am #651606
wasatch surf
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@firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers
the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.
February 13, 2012 at 3:10 am #651607
buell
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@wasatch surf wrote:
@Snurfer wrote:
@christoph benells wrote:
@whistlermaverick wrote:
because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!
haha just kidding folks.
BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…
Buell
Barrows
Firstlight
SogNar
Vapor
Powder_Rider
hyzerbomber
mcduff
norriega
ale_capone
keffler
ibisbiking
karkis
Wasatch_Don
shasta
aliasptr
Pow-D-Rider
b0ardski
treepilot
Wasatch Surf
UTAH
Snurfer
StaggerLee
mej
singlewhitecaveman
p06781
snowman1
Locster
Unruly Baker?
my wife (who does not post here)
February 13, 2012 at 3:13 am #651608
buell
Participant
@firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers
I am size 25mondo and my wife is 23 mondo.
Price I would pay is dependent on quality and design. A quality, secure binding is absolutely required for me.
February 13, 2012 at 4:29 am #651609
firstlight
Participant
@wasatch surf wrote:
@firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers
the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.
I was going for adjustable plate in two sizes at the begining.
That way you can make them fit all diiferent boot makers actual overall boot outer sizes.
My 27.5 Scarpa/Garmont/Raichle boots all have different lenghts, only a small adjustment.
Ill see what $ they would come out at for around 20 sets
Cheers
Adam West
www.firstlightsurfboards.com.au
www.firstlightsnowboards.com.au
www.splitfest.com.au
www.snowsafety.com.au
www.mrbc.com.au
www.backcountryglobal.com
www.alpinefirstaid.com.au
February 13, 2012 at 6:35 am #651610
whistlermaverick
Participant
@firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers
Screw the voile style puck.
Something that fix’s to the board(Karakoram/Edison style).
All it needs to do is fit the split hole pattern, after that it’s up to your imagination.
Then a thin plate that locks on to it. Bails adjustable(??) and integrated in to the plate. Boot sitting as close as possible, if not on the plate.
If I get an AT boot I don’t want the bottom of it to be 1.5 inches off my board, it’s sole is high enough already.
I want to be close to my board, I don’t like being high off it.
@j.memay
February 13, 2012 at 3:07 pm #651611
splitchef
Participant
@buell wrote:
@wasatch surf wrote:
@Snurfer wrote:
@christoph benells wrote:
@whistlermaverick wrote:
because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!
haha just kidding folks.
I
BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…
Buell
Barrows
Firstlight
SogNar
Vapor
Powder_Rider
hyzerbomber
mcduff
norriega
ale_capone
keffler
ibisbiking
karkis
Wasatch_Don
shasta
aliasptr
Pow-D-Rider
b0ardski
treepilot
Wasatch Surf
UTAH
Snurfer
StaggerLee
mej
singlewhitecaveman
p06781
snowman1
Locster
Unruly Baker?
my wife (who does not post here)
Splitchef reprezenting in the San Juan’s!
February 13, 2012 at 6:02 pm #651612
JimmyC
Participant
Add JimmyC to the HB list.
I would like to keep using my Dynafit toe pieces in tour mode–and am currently considering direct mounting Plum Guide toe and heel pieces. I would be quite willing to pay for a solid binding that lowered my boot (27.5) position on the board by 0.5 inches or so. I really like the feel (i..e lateral flex) of my Bomber Sidewinders—but I do wish that I could could drop the boot height.
February 13, 2012 at 6:30 pm #651613
HikeforTurns
Participant
I would buy if they were good quality and super low profile. Voile pucks would be OK with me.
February 13, 2012 at 7:34 pm #651614
rughty
Participant
Triad plates will be much better/lighter than the voile plates. I have started up a project with OCD. His will include highbacks and bring mountaineering boot riding as an option for those who are interested in going that route.
February 14, 2012 at 8:16 am #651615
treepilot
Participant
@splitchef wrote:
@buell wrote:
@wasatch surf wrote:
@Snurfer wrote:
@christoph benells wrote:
@whistlermaverick wrote:
because they would sell only three models… you, barrows and vapor!
haha just kidding folks.
I
BCRider joked about this recently and it got me thinking… :scratch: How many HB’ers are on the forum? A partial list…
Buell
Barrows
Firstlight
SogNar
Vapor
Powder_Rider
hyzerbomber
mcduff
norriega
ale_capone
keffler
ibisbiking
karkis
Wasatch_Don
shasta
aliasptr
Pow-D-Rider
b0ardski
treepilot
Wasatch Surf
UTAH
Snurfer
StaggerLee
mej
singlewhitecaveman
p06781
snowman1
Locster
Unruly Baker?
my wife (who does not post here)
Splitchef reprezenting in the San Juan’s!
MangyMoose + his wife
a regular partner who doesn’t post here
and after a demo for Matt a.d., I think him and mrash will be jumping ship too.
definitely time for a custom hard boot plate. Ditch the pucks, or use bails wide enough to go on the outside of the pucks, rather than on top.
February 15, 2012 at 10:34 pm #651616
vapor
Participant
@wasatch surf wrote:
@firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers
the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.
Wow, don’t know how i missed this thread.
The binding I made last year works perfect but isn’t cost effective to produce.
I’ve pretty much rested up from this falls board building episode so i’ll put some thought into it and see what i can come up with.
Right now i’ve got some ideas but they would be custom. and would have to develop bending dies for the bales as well as do some destructive testing before selling to anybody.
February 15, 2012 at 10:38 pm #651617
treepilot
Participant
@vapor wrote:
@wasatch surf wrote:
@firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers
the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.
Wow, don’t know how i missed this thread.
The binding I made last year works perfect but isn’t cost effective to produce.
I’ve pretty much rested up from this falls board building episode so i’ll put some thought into it and see what i can come up with.
Right now i’ve got some ideas but they would be custom. and would have to develop bending dies for the bales as well as do some destructive testing before selling to anybody.
Pics?
February 15, 2012 at 11:06 pm #651618
vapor
Participant
@treepilot wrote:
@vapor wrote:
@wasatch surf wrote:
@firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case.
I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount?
This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates.
I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project.
What you we be willing to pay?
Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300.
Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5
What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest.
Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted?
Cheers
the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.
Wow, don’t know how i missed this thread.
The binding I made last year works perfect but isn’t cost effective to produce.
I’ve pretty much rested up from this falls board building episode so i’ll put some thought into it and see what i can come up with.
Right now i’ve got some ideas but they would be custom. and would have to develop bending dies for the bales as well as do some destructive testing before selling to anybody.
Pics?
i will. ordered some material and its on its way.
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