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  • #570726
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    You’ll probably notice a new look to the forum with some added content boxes. I’ve added some direct links to avy bulletins and noaa as well as our shop page and affiliate sites.

    Been working on it for quite a while and basically had to teach myself some coding stuff. Still a work in progress but hope you guys like it! 🙂

    Stock sb.com header and nav bar are next.

    One thing I don’t like is the shifting down the main part of the page makes when making a post but it corrects itself after a couple seconds. I’ll see if I can inquire how to fix it.

    #610983
    powderjunkie
    1669 Posts

    the ads and links on each site of the board really squishes the board to narrow

    Do they have to take up that much space on each side?

    I’m just complaining because I’m not getting the goods today. 😀

    #610984
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Make your browser window wider. 😉

    I’m on a 15” lappy and its totally fine in my opinion. Definitely something I took into consideration though.

    Didn’t want to pull a bcmag on you all. 🙂
    http://www.backcountrymagazine.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=84

    #610985
    kjkrow
    353 Posts

    Chris … I think the side bars work fine for normal threads, but not as well for trip reports or pic heavy threads. Is there a way to eliminate the side bars for the TR section?

    #610986
    fustercluck
    668 Posts

    Yeah, honestly, not digging it. I realize you got to give the advertisers some space, but I think the old style was a lot more viewer friendly.

    #610982
    Ecobrad
    2068 Posts

    I like it. Having the weather and avalanche links right there reminds me to check all the time. Plus, when I shop at bc.com or rei I want Chris to get a couple bucks so having the links makes that easy too. So far I haven’t had any loading issues on threads with a lot of pictures but that would be the only drawback I can think of.

    #610987
    refried
    93 Posts

    I don’t like it at all. It squishes everything down way too much. I know ads pay for the site but they shouldn’t make it hard to read. I have to scroll down an entire page to find submit

    #610988
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    On my laptop, which has a letterbox screen, it looks fine. On my home computer, with a rectangular screen it is horrible. The space for content is really compressed and in the trip reports 1/2 of every picture is off the screen.

    I’m all in favor of your making as much $$ as possible off the site, but this really affects the user experience. Maybe you could keep all the ads on the right side of the screen only. Or at least narrow the margins around the REI ads on the left. You could buy back an inch of space by tightening up the left side margins.

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #610989
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Thanks for the feedback guys. I remember when TGR added a sidebar and at first it seemed distracting, now it would look weird without it. Even if you don’t care for the new look in time you probably won’t even notice it.

    @kjkrow wrote:

    Chris … I think the side bars work fine for normal threads, but not as well for trip reports or pic heavy threads. Is there a way to eliminate the side bars for the TR section?

    Are you thinking due to page load times or just too much content when viewing TRs?

    @mtnman wrote:

    Yeah, honestly, not digging it. I realize you got to give the advertisers some space, but I think the old style was a lot more viewer friendly.

    I think it will grow on you and hopefully you’ll find some of the content useful. If I see our site stats suffer and it can be attributed to the sidebars I’ll consider changing them. As it stand now our stats are the highest they’ve ever been, mostly due to all the splitters like yourself that contribute.

    @Ecobrad wrote:

    I like it. Having the weather and avalanche links right there reminds me to check all the time. Plus, when I shop at bc.com or rei I want Chris to get a couple bucks so having the links makes that easy too. So far I haven’t had any loading issues on threads with a lot of pictures but that would be the only drawback I can think of.

    Thanks brad.

    @refried wrote:

    I don’t like it at all. It squishes everything down way too much. I know ads pay for the site but they shouldn’t make it hard to read. I have to scroll down an entire page to find submit

    Based on my testing, the only time it shifts things down is on the log-on page and the forums that only have a couple topics. In regards to the submit button, in firefox and safari its not pushed down as far as I can tell. one thing I do notice is that due to the number of smilies I’ve added and the narrower width, it does move the submit button down a little. I will either remove a few of the smilies we don’t use very often or look to having a separate window open for smilies. This should bring the submit button up a little. I do not agree that its hard to read or interact with as it stands now but I appreciate your opinion.

    A tip to make the viewing experience better is to widen your browser window. You’ll notice that the body of the forum will widen as well as you do this. Some forums are fixed width and I don’t care for that which is why I kept the stretching feature.

    #610990
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    @SanFrantastico wrote:

    On my laptop, which has a letterbox screen, it looks fine. On my home computer, with a rectangular screen it is horrible. The space for content is really compressed and in the trip reports 1/2 of every picture is off the screen.

    I’m all in favor of your making as much $$ as possible off the site, but this really affects the user experience. Maybe you could keep all the ads on the right side of the screen only. Or at least narrow the margins around the REI ads on the left. You could buy back an inch of space by tightening up the left side margins.

    I’m not clear on the first part. Are you saying your lappy is 4×3 and your desktop is 16×9? If so, the 16×9 should look better as its wider. What size screens are they 13”, 15”, 17”, 20”, 24”?

    As for the second part. I played with a single column but just felt the double column looked better based on the content I wanted/needed to add.

    #610991
    fullers2oh
    525 Posts

    gotta warn us about things like this – i was checkin things out today and thought you got hacked or something 😀

    using a 19in. standard LCD screen in 1280X1024 when looking at pics in TR’s pics are off the screen. i just scroll right and i can see them but then of course im not seeing the ads cuz now they are off the screen.

    #610992
    fustercluck
    668 Posts

    I’m all for the content – I just don’t care for how it is displayed. I’ll try widening my browser as you suggest, but, umm, little help? I’m a snowboarder, not a computer guy. 😉

    #610993
    deejaygee
    98 Posts

    Looks great on my Mac desktop with the ginormous screen but on my IBM Thinkpad it kind of sucks.

    What follows are screenshots of my Thinkpad screen to show you what I mean.

    Main page for the forum. Can’t even see the index:

    If I page down, I can see the index. Note how the topic subjects now wrap to four lines apiece instead of two:

    First page of a posting:

    Again, I have to page down to start reading:

    Typical trip report posting with images clipped on the right:

    #610994
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Thanks for the screenshots deejaygee!

    What size screen is your thinkpad? While I probably should accommodate sub 15” screens it kinda sucks to have to build a site around such small parameters. I mean, nobody uses a 13” desktop but I suppose there are folks like yourself that use laptops with smaller screens than 15”.

    Regarding “page down” on the thinkpad. On my laptop there is no page down button. I just drag two fingers downward on the trackpad and it scrolls. Three fingers across to the left is equivalent to hitting the back button, across to the right is forward. No need to touch the keys. 8)

    Here are some screenshots from my 15” lappy using safari and firefox. On that note, is Firefox and Mozilla Firefox the same thing?

    Board Index in Safari

    Board Index in Firefox

    TR in Safari

    TR in Firefox

    Top of thread view in Safari

    Regarding TRs. In my opinion 800×600 is the largest pics should be. Only Tex and a couple others post pics in their TRs that are larger. Probably because they are posting from a desktop where none of this will be an issue I think?

    Here is a pic of a 800×600 TR, the sidebar is cut off a little but the TR content is easily viewed.

    I guess I need to decide if I want/need to build the forum around sub 15” screens which again kinda sucks in my opinion. I have a couple ideas I can try tonight or tomorrow to get about an inch back which may help everyone.

    mtnman,
    Yeah…I’m not a snowboarder…just a computer guy and adjusting your browser window is really tough. 😉

    In Safari or Firefox you just grab the lower right corner and drag wider. Not sure about Internet Exploder or on a PC. I can try on our old PC though later for you.

    #610995
    deejaygee
    98 Posts

    don’t think of it as screen size. my laptop’s resolution is 1024×768. imo that would be a reasonable design point, probably the same resolution as many of your visitors with desktop computers and physically larger monitors. firefox = mozilla firefox.

    #610996
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    I’m using a 19″ flat panel set at 1280 x 1024 resolution and Internet Explorer. It’s not as bad as deejaygee, but I don’t think it’s ideal, either. If you look at any of the screen shots, it the content is all squished into a small percentage of the screen. There’s a lot of empty white space, too, especially at the top. With this design I think you should be able to turn a lot of the white space into content and have the same ads with more content showing.

    I don’t know if phpBB can do it or not, but I’ve seen sites where they place small banner ads like the spark r&D ad in between posts. Like every few posts on the page. It’s more effective because you get exposed to the ads as you read through the content, yet the ads don’t hog up so much of the page.

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #610997
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Ahh, good point. I’m still a little confused though.

    On my 15” laptop the resolution is 1440×900 and on my 20” desktop the resolution is 1680×1050. When I adjust either to a lower res it looks horrible and makes everything really BIG. Are you saying that most desktop users can only go up to 1024×768 or that’s just the resolution most folks prefer?

    Are you able to increase your resolution on the thinkpad? Does the text get too small or something?

    Storn, can you increase your resolution?

    #610998
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Storn,

    As you first pic shows, there is actually less white space (above 2 side bars) with the new version than there was on the old version.

    I can easily ad adds in between every few posts but I never liked that approach because its more intrusive and distracting in my opinion. With the sidebars it on the sides and shouldn’t take away (in theory) from the main content.

    Thanks for you input too. I’ll keep working on it, definitely want everyone to be happy.

    #610999
    SanFrantastico
    1514 Posts

    That’s the max resoltion that I can get with my graphics card, which is a few years old. If I have a choice I try to set the resolution as high as possible but where there’s no distortion and I can read the text easily. It’ll vary depending on different people’s setups and tastes.

    The sidebar ads actually ‘intrude’ on every post because they take up space even down low on the page where there are no ads displayed. That space on the sides is allocated away from content no matter what. With in-between ads, once you scroll past the ad you get your space back. but I know what you mean… they can be overdone. There is one site that has both sidebar ads and ads between every message and I can barely stand to visit it.

    Anyway, it’s a matter of finding the right balance and you can’t please everyone.

    Putting the poo in swimming pool since 1968.

    #611000
    deejaygee
    98 Posts

    @bcrider wrote:

    Ahh, good point. I’m still a little confused though.

    On my 15” laptop the resolution is 1440×900 and on my 20” desktop the resolution is 1680×1050. When I adjust either to a lower res it looks horrible and makes everything really BIG. Are you saying that most desktop users can only go up to 1024×768 or that’s just the resolution most folks prefer?

    Are you able to increase your resolution on the thinkpad? Does the text get too small or something?

    Storn, can you increase your resolution?

    1024×768 is appropriate for monitors with a 4:3 aspect ratio. your newfangled computer probably use a different aspect ratio (e.g. 16:9) which would explain why a resolution designed for 4:3 would look wrong. it’s like stretching a VCR-era recording to fit a letterbox screen.

    leave your resolution as is and make the browser window 1024×768 instead to give you an idea of what it would look like on a screen with that resolution.

    1024×768 is the highest resolution offered on my laptop with a 12″ diagonal screen. it’s bound by memory on the graphics card (4 bytes per pixel in 32-bit color mode) and physically by lcd’s limits on dot pitch or whatever you call the maximum number of dots per physical inch of display.

    i think 1024×768 was the max resolution for windows computers for quite a while and still so for many laptops. before that we topped out at 800×600 and before that at 640×480, all 4:3 when you do the math.

    i’d really like to maximize content and minimize fluff and wasted “white space”. for example, combine an advertisement and the site logo up at the top and collapse down other non-rotating banners like weather, avy info, and the online store. i don’t mind the odd ‘inline ad’ since i usually jump straight to the last message in a topic anyways. ads at the bottom of the page are fine too. here’s an example of how you could compress the info at the top of the page:

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