@cbalke Thanks for trying to help. Went back to flickr, but it’s blocked at work, so I had tried something else that wouldn’t work.
It’s still somewhat tricky. BBC code works for me when I delete the latter 3 thirds of it. Topic for another thread. Wasn’t that a sticky in the old forum?

Yes, Flo I had seen Markus (aka Burton) thread about that board (and had known from the past. I’m german (Hallo ;)) and used to be on erstespur.de as well) and that’s why I had mentioned it in my post. He is THE MAN! 3800g is insane, are you sure it’s with touring brackets and all that on the board as well?!
Have him build you a wider board! I’m sure you would be stoked!

@ozsnowbum Do you know the weight of an 160 Ultracraft with clips on it? It’s no so easy to find accurate weights for all these boards and info on how they weight them.

Amplid claims the Lab Carbon Split weights 2.3kg and I believe them. But I assume that is for the 157cm with out any hardware on it (no clips).

So you add 5 cm of board + nose/tail clips + board clips + screws and that gets you there.

Assuming my scale is accurate !?

nwkayaker wrote:

@schwalbster, I have an Amplid Lab Carbon 62 myself.

How are you liking the Kohla skins? We are having an icy low-tide winter around Anchorage and the Kohla skins seem to have a little ……………

Nice! Good to hear that you like how the board feels!

We are desperately waiting for snow here in California and it will be a while before I can take my Amplid out! Therefore no idea how the skins perform. I will follow up as soon as have some impressions.

I had no issues at all mounting my hardware. Karakoram provide shorter screws for thin core boards, but I didn’t need them. All good.

Would love to hear more once you get some pow!

I knew Buell would reply to this, right on cue. Ha! Buell and I have become friends over the last couple years and he is the ultimate weight weenie and gear head that I know. And it’s been very interesting for me to observe him and his gear. I ride softboots and I always will, so I will never be able to come even close to his weight.

I very much agree with Buells’ sentiment that it’s overall design combined with lightweight that is the goal. But when we talk uphill speed I would like to steer away a little bit from the main focus being the gear. I would think by far the biggest factor for uphill speed is fitness, right? And then daily form and acclimatization status. I personally feel strongest on my third day in the mountains (I live at sea level). Then there are many minor things, how well did you sleep, what did you eat, had any beers the night before, are you keeping yourself well fueled and hydrated with the right things during your day etc. etc.
Some days you feel great and have a feeling you could go on forever, other days you feel you have legs made of lead.
I’m stoked for you that you liked the Plum set-up and had such a positive experience. But I can not imagine for the life of me that the board (with it being heavier on top of it) alone made you go uphill that much faster. That would just be against all logic. There is only so much gain that ski shape, camber, skin hair type, bindings, pivot point etc can do to affect uphill speed. I would think lightweight mostly helps with less fatigue over time, not necessarily uphill speed. Especially on shorter tours (I’m assuming here it wasn’t a long trip since you said you did it twice that day. But then again there a people out there who do amazing feats) it might not make much of a difference at all. But over longer duration it must be. Moving heavier things repeatedly creates fatigue earlier. From my point of view that is a fact that can’t be argued.

I have a couple questions: How many days had you spent in the mountains prior when you felt slower. How do you measure uphill speed? (Given that there can be many variables with elevation gain, total distance, terrain, slope angles, snow conditions etc.) Was it during your guys Splitfest? Were you super amped to be out, the day you felt faster? On the second lap when you actually measured the speed, did you maybe want to prove that this board is faster and subconsciously pushed a little harder? Even though you seem convinced that it was really just the board, I would argue it’s hard to say why exactly you were faster.

But what I really want to know ieism is what the hell is in your backpack (or better what is not in it ;)?? 3kg for a 2 day tour!? I can not see how that is even close to possible and I have tons more questions 😉 ! Most Avy packs are above 2kg already, so add probe and shovel to that and an energy bar 😉 and you’re at 3kg right away.
But let’s have some fun. As far as I know the new Mammut ultralight 20L is the lightest avy pack on the market and if you equip that with the carbon cartridge it clocks in at just 1510g (I know all that because that is one of the packs Buell has and he is dying to get the Carbon cartridge and we were looking into it if I could bring it back for him from a recent trip to Europe I did, but no dice. Can’t fly with it. It doesn’t get shipped to the US either. Yet. I see you must be from the Netherlands so you can get it.) Lightest probes hover just below 200g, lightest shovels are around 500g (again as far I know). So that would leave about just 800g for everything else?? Zero extra clothing? What about some essentials like first aid and repair kits etc. What about axe and crampons? Do you not count water and food? Do you ride with a helmet and do you count that as backpack weight? And what does 2 day tour mean to you? I know that in Europe you could technically get by with just a credit card, a hut sleeping bag and a toothbrush if you stay in a mountain hut with full catering, foregoing any and all comfort items.

Anyway I’m dying to hear how you measure that and how you came down to just 3kg!!??