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    I’ve heard good things about the BD and Voile poles, but has tried Lekki. It looks like a twist lock system.
    -Russell

    #592689
    Killclimbz
    1165 Posts

    Yeah, they suck for splitboarding. I have had two pairs of their poles. I had more problems with them slipping, locking up, and just being a general pain in the ass than I care to talk about.

    I used the BD flicklock expedition poles for two seasons no problems.

    I now have a pair of Voile Poles. No problems so far, but only three outings with them. They seem to be just fine though.

    My Leki poles started giving me problems after 5 or so outings. Some of that was probably due to storage. By the end of the season I was cursing those poles.

    #592690
    TEX
    2486 Posts

    As Killclimbz says they will get a little grit down in them and start to stick. You will find yourself not being able to colapse them or when you are skinning they will colapse on you when you dont want then to. Stick with the BD flintlock or go with the new Voiles. Get the ones from Voile with flames on them and you will increase your speed by 10%

    #592691
    knucklesplitter
    340 Posts

    The flicklocks are prolly better, but I had a pair of Lekis that lasted 8 seasons until they broke last spring. I’m still using them with the aid of duct tape. Once you figure out how to get them to grab they’re not so bad. Having said that… I’m getting some BDs this season.

    #592692
    OldMan
    24 Posts

    I’ve had the same pair of Leki poles for almost 10 years with just minor problems. Sometimes (every couple of years) you have to pull the locking mechanism out and expand the plastic by screwing it in all the way but other than that I haven’t seen a need to get a new set of poles.

    I think I’m the oddball on this forum, but I prefer twist-lock to flick-lock.

    #592693
    InTheMountains
    216 Posts

    I’ve had some lekis for 10 years as well…no issues either. I take em apart after every tour and let them dry out. put a dab of vaseline on the threads one in a while, just to keep things moving.
    gary

    #592694
    powder_tracker
    83 Posts

    Nothing but PROBLEMS with Leki.

    Go with the BD Flicklocks (make sure both parts of the pole are flicklocks)

    #592695
    48steps
    39 Posts

    Having scoured the forum for gear knowledge, the BD Expeditions are a near consensus pick, yet the Voiles show strong in this thread. -edit- and the leki’s too, duh -edit-

    Coincidentally, I just checked poles off the gear list tonight actually.

    $69.95 w/free shipping at backcountry.com

    http://www.backcountry.com/store/BLD0917/Black-Diamond-FlickLock-Expedition-Poles.html?id=fveQ55LA

    #592696
    steeleman
    61 Posts

    Lekis rule. two pair working fine after many many years of abuse and ZERO maintenance (i’m lazy)

    #592697
    Reuben
    15 Posts

    I’ve used both. Flip lock mechanism on BD’s is marginally better, but the Leki’s (Makalu Ti) feel appreciably lighter in the hand, even compared to the carbon BD’s. For me at least, neither one is that easy to adjust once you have used them for a while and the poles get bent and scuffed up. Durability has been the same – never had either fail. All in all, for me the weight savings of the lekis is worth the slightly harder adjustment mechanism.

    #592698
    damian
    107 Posts

    I got pissed off with my Leki’s last weekend and bought DB flick lock. Much (much!) more user friendly than my Leki twist locks, especially when it counts. Hand grip and wrist strap are not as comfortable but that isn’t really relevant.

    #592699
    Yoda
    264 Posts

    I have a question to all here who are interested in buying or have already bought the BD “Expedition” model of colapsable “ski” poles for splitboarding.

    Why would you buy heavy “ski” specific poles for splitboarding? Touring on a splitboard is more like hiking or trekking… you are using the poles for climbing, not for skiing down.

    I agree that the BD poles are the way to go, but why not purchase a pole from BD that is more condusive to our application.

    BD makes the “Trail” model that’s a lighter-weight version of the “Expedition” and is still a 4 season pole. http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/gear/trail.php

    IMO, this “Trail” pole has much better features for what we do. It’s still outfitted with double Flicklocks, but in addition, it also has an extended grip for traversing and the main grip is designed for trekking and climbing, not skiing!

    If you’re a gram counter, but want the attributes of the “Trail”, then buy the BD “Enduro CF” model – http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/gear/enduro_cf.php

    Below is my quote from another thread in regards to this pole:
    @yoda wrote:

    I’m using a pole from Black Diamonds new line of trekking poles for spring ’06. They have both 3-season and 4-season versions. The 4-season models (2 styles) have duel Flick-Locs. The 3-season versions have the push-button adjustment on the bottom section (prone to freezing). What’s cool about the 4-season version is they are lighter than the Expeditions, have an extended foam grip on the shaft, a straight hand-grip (good for climbing), and pack down to 25″ (64.5cm) and extend out to 55″ (140cm). They also have a replaceable carbide tip that will flex to resist braking – Expeditions do not have this feature. The one plus with the Expeditions is that they offer 2 size options… the smaller one packs down to 23″, but only extends to 120cm, I’m 6 feet tall and generally tour with my poles at 130+cm (especially in powder).
    For Splitboarding your using you poles for touring, rarely skiing… you don’t really benifit from the design of the Expeditions (ski specific grip, no grip extention, non-replaceable tips) for this application.

    #592700
    Unruly Baker
    333 Posts

    @yoda wrote:

    If you’re a gram counter, but want the attributes of the “Trail”, then buy the BD “Enduro CF” model – http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/gear/enduro_cf.php

    They had those poles on steep and cheap a few weeks back for under $50. I’m still punching myself in the crotch for not buying them. I use the BD expedition poles and like them, but the ones above look pretty sweet, just need powder baskets.

    UB

    #592701
    Yoda
    264 Posts

    I should of mentioned to buy and attach these – http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/gear/bd_baskets.php

    These are the best baskets for assending and can be also used to adjust your heel-lifters into place! 😀

    #592702
    damian
    107 Posts

    Yoda, I have the expedition pole (500gm). The one feature I will have to add myself is the rubber grip on the pole below the handle. That stuff is great for no-glove hiking. Perhaps some hockey tape. But I am happy with the expedition pole. For an extra 100gm I get a very tough pole that I can treat badly during that type of travel that is between mountaineering and touring. Are the 4 season hiking poles super robust?

    The one thing I don’t like about the BD poles is the wrist strap. They put the large plastic adjustment buckle right at the apex of the strap loop. This is a problem for me as I tend to hold my poles without actually using hand muscles to grip. The result is that after several hours of hiking the plastic buckle gouges a big dent into my bony wrist’s meat, even if I am wearing thin liners. I suppose this is my fault as I am not holding the pole in the manner it was designed for.

    Aside: I hold the pole without using hand grip as it saves effort over a long hike.

    I extend the strap loop so that when your hand is inserted you can grip the pole just below the moulded plastic hand grip. By doing so the wrist strap should come comfortably tight and the top of your fist should push against the underside of the poles grip. The benefits when walking:

    1. when un-weighting the pole: you don’t need to grip with muscle it as the bottom of the hand grip rests on the top of your hand, which only needs to be loosely circled around the metal pole.

    2. when weighting the pole: there is again no need to use hand muscles to grip as the weight of your arm rests on the wrist strap (and gets gouged by the plastic adjuster buckle)

    Every step requires the pole to be weighted and un-weighted, over and over again for hours of touring. If you use the pole normally this means that you have to constantly grip the pole with energy (and get a sweaty hand). If you use it in the way I described then the pole just magically sits in your hand without any energy being used to grip it. I find it makes a big relaxing difference when using the poles for swinging rhythm and balance (rather than putting serious weight on them). I almost never hold the moulded grip.

    Also, on a traverse I like to hold the up-hill pole further down the shaft, like most people do. When I do this I often hook my thumb through the extended wrist strap. This means the static hook of my thumb takes my arms weight/effort and again, I don’t have to grip the pole until I unweight it for the forward step and even then you just tighten a finger to hold the pole in place. The plastic buckle makes this thumb-hook method uncomfortable.

    Call me fussy, but every bit of effort and energy matters. Notice how marathon runner´s have dangly floppy arms? Having relaxed arms when hiking long distance is just as helpful to comfort and endurance.

    I am going to replace the wrist straps on my BD’s with a home made strap.

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