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  • #578251
    Revquinn
    23 Posts

    So after much reading here and elsewhere I’ve decided to make the hardboot transition, but am struggling to find a suitable AT boot in a size that suits my gargantuan feet (US15). I think I need around a Mondo 32 – 33 depending on the fit, but pretty much all the boots I’ve seen only run to around the 31.5 (i.e. TLT5’s)

    Has anyone else out there been able to find a good hardboot solution for large feet?

    Its always a problem even for soft boots (currently on a trashed pair of Burton Rulers), but it does mean I ride them till they die!

    #665862
    Jason4
    443 Posts

    Talk to a good local bootfitter to see if they can push the shell out far enough to accomodate your foot size. I’ve heard that they can get around a full size out of punching out the toes.

    #665863
    Revquinn
    23 Posts

    good idea. that might just be enough. I assume I would then need to upsize the liner as well..

    #665861
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    Scarpa lists the Rush in size up to 31 mondo. The Scarpa sizing generally runs large, and the boots feature pretty high volume as well. I suspect this may be a good place to start, but, as mentioned, you may need some extra help from a good bootfitter to get enough length.
    I suspect the Rush could mod up into a pretty sweet riding boot.

    #665864
    Revquinn
    23 Posts

    thanks for the tip. Looking at the Scarpa site and it seems they have a few options in the larger sizes so they are going to be my best bet it seems. They have the Maestrele in up to a 32 but the word seems to be that they are a little on the stiff side.

    Now time to find out where they have stashed all their large models of the Rush!

    #665865
    unclepauly
    5 Posts

    I’ve got a pretty standard US15 too my big foot brother- Medium arch, medium width, mild overpronation. It’s a tough life.

    My philosophy has always been to suffer in the smallest boot possible until they break in and feel natural. My soft boots are a 13, and beautiful. Try a Scarpa 31 or 30.5 (that’s two different sized shells). The 31/31.5 should fit perfect.

    Best of luck!

    #665866
    FloImSchnee
    291 Posts

    @revquinn wrote:

    They have the Maestrele in up to a 32 but the word seems to be that they are a little on the stiff side.

    Indeed, the Maestrale is much too stiff for snowboarding.

    #665867
    Powder_Rider
    498 Posts

    While I can’t help with the finding a large Hard Boot. The following may help to understanding AT Ski boot sizing:

    [*]http://gearx.com/blog/knowledge/skiing/how-to-size-ski-boots/
    [*]http://gearx.com/blog/2010/09/17/a-quick-ski-boot-fit-guide-for-alpine-touring-and-telemark-boots/

    #665868
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    I am currently in the same position, though I only wear a 14 usually. I’ve been convinced that switching to a hard boot setup is the way to go for more of the splitboard-mountaineering objectives I want to go after in the Alps. I got excited reading all the good things about TLT5/6, but when I went to the shop today and tried on the 30.5 (biggest size they come in) they were definitely too small.

    I see that La Sportiva goes up to 31.5 and the guy at the shop today told me Scarpa makes some bigger boots too. Anyone know which boots are available in 31.5 or 32 that would be good for splitboarding?

    Looking at the La Sportiva Siderals maybe.

    #665869
    mwhiteley
    5 Posts

    Before you spend too much time on the boot search, I’m curious what your plan for bindings is. My soft boots are 12s, so not as big as yours but I’ve noticed both the Phantoms and the Spark Dyno DH top out at 29.5 or 30.0 Mondo.

    #665870
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    @mwhiteley wrote:

    Before you spend too much time on the boot search, I’m curious what your plan for bindings is. My soft boots are 12s, so not as big as yours but I’ve noticed both the Phantoms and the Spark Dyno DH top out at 29.5 or 30.0 Mondo.

    Well, from emailing with Will at Spark, he tells me

    That sizing isn’t quite right, we need to update it, or put a disclaimer on it that it depends on the boot. The measurement that is correct is the boot sole length. The Dynos will fit a 340mm length boot.

    That makes a lot of sense to me, and based on http://www.sportiva.com/resources/images/Buttons_Graphics/SKIBootSoleLengths_2013.jpg the Siderals in a 31 or 31.5 are only 337mm, so think they should be fine.

    I tried discussing this with Phantom on Facebook, but they insisted the current bindings would only fit up to 30 mondo. This does not make sense to me, as some ski boots in 30 mondo are over 350mm. Perhaps I’ll have better luck discussing with them over email.

    However, Phantom did also tell me they are working on an XL binding, so that might also be an option!! Just no idea if/when that might be available. If I hear more I can let you know.

    #665871
    HikeforTurns
    1113 Posts

    @phareyouwell wrote:

    I tried discussing this with Phantom on Facebook, but they insisted the current bindings would only fit up to 30 mondo. This does not make sense to me, as some ski boots in 30 mondo are over 350mm. Perhaps I’ll have better luck discussing with them over email.

    However, Phantom did also tell me they are working on an XL binding, so that might also be an option!! Just no idea if/when that might be available. If I hear more I can let you know.

    If John is referring to Dynafit TLT5/6 BSLs, according to my chart, size 30 mondo has a BSL of 327 (smaller than most BSLs)

    #665872
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    @hikeforturns wrote:

    If John is referring to Dynafit TLT5/6 BSLs, according to my chart, size 30 mondo has a BSL of 327 (smaller than most BSLs)

    John replied to my email super quick.
    Main response is

    From my experience and how the Phantoms fit, any boot shell size over 30 is too big. As for the boot sole length number, I’ve found that this matters more for traditional ski bindings and don’t work as well for gauging the fit for bindings with bails.

    So not sure about the variety of different boots he has tried the Phantoms with, but you are probably right about TLT5/6s since that seems to be the most popular boot.

    Good news is he is building a prototype XL for a local customer, and if that goes well he might be willing to make some more…. possibly later this season, or more likely next.

    So, I may go with the Dyno’s for now (trusting what Will told me), but we’ll see…. still gotta buy the boots!

    #665873
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    So I had completely given up on getting TlT6s, as the biggest size (30.5) didn’t seem big enough for me (I usually wear 14 in soft boots). But, I went to a different shop (Yosemite) in town today where the guy convinced me to try them on again.

    And, amazingly they seemed to fit much better! Turns out, that they stock them with CL liners, while the other shops I had been to (both here and in Paris) all had the CRs. The CL seems much thinner, and gives me a much better fit!

    My big left toe (left ft is slightly longer than my right) still seems to touch the end a bit. The shop guy assured me that could pack out (and he was aware I will be using them for splitting… told me his brother does the same 🙂 )

    Can I count on that being the case? Liner already seems pretty thin, but when he had me try out the shell w/out liner he thought it was a good fit.

    #665874
    TLN
    47 Posts

    You can use a thermofit liner, just google Intuition liners or Palau liners. They’re typically used in ski boots or alpine snoboard boots, but I see no problems using in touring boots. They require some molding to your feet, but this is a way to size down your plastic, or in your case fit in biggest shell.
    For example, my UPZ RC10 with 312mm shell marked as US9.5 boot, and my street shoe is US12(riding in US13 malamutes). Some say, I can size down for shell =US8, but that gonna be painful and freezing. I’m not a racer to do this.
    Even more, moding will creater a perfect liner, especially for your feet. Super comfy and warm.

    As a drawback… well, liners cost a money(but US13 typically on sale), and better do it with a bootfitter.

    #665875
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    The Dynafit liners are thermoformable themselves. Don’t need to go buying another liner. In fact I see on the other thread Barrows talking these liners up, and even ordering them from Europe since they are not available in the US.

    #665876
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    Other options I found that seemed to fit me are the Dynafit ONE PX and the NEO U in 31 (I guess the NEOs have replaced the ONEs??), both on sale at a different shop.

    Though, seems like I am better off going with the smallest shell I can fit into to minimize toe drag, and make sure I can get a binding that will work.

    #665877
    TLN
    47 Posts

    Thermofit and thermoflex is different things.
    ThermoFIT – gets your shape when you ride it, and molds a little bit.
    ThermoFLEX – requires molding before you ride, in fact, you can barely fit in unmolded one, if you choose right size.

    Here’s photo:
    it says: CL liner on the left. CR liner on the right.
    CL seems to be thermofit, and it have same material everywhere. CR have a toebox, different materials on cuff and so on. It will mold partially, but not as CL obviously.

    I’ve found a review here: http://coldthistle.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-dynafit-tlt6-ski-boot-shake-and.html buy I bet you’ve read this already.
    He mentioned an Intuition Pro tour liner, probably you should look on this too.

    ps. Everything here is from my experience with alpine hardboots, but it seems to be exact for these. I own a deeluxe with thermoflex and UPZ with intuition thermofit.

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