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  • #663633
    chrisNZ
    304 Posts

    Fitness is key. Every year i plan on training all summer. It never seems to happen.
    Ride with other snowboarders is a good option too.

    #663634
    philip.ak
    679 Posts

    Forget skiers. Try keeping up with a six-year-younger splitboarding wife who was a collegiate All-American cross country runner. Jeez! 😯

    #663635
    Matt Wood
    328 Posts

    I don’t see what’s the big deal here. If your efficient and have your system down you should be able to keep up (for the most part). When I started splitting I must have transitioned (In my living room) 50 times before ever getting on snow.

    That said, I do get frustrated when fellow splitters don’t have there shit together. Nothings more annoying when even though it’s a no rush situation, people are fumbling around. We have a guy in our crew whos the worst! Meet him at the trailhead @ 7 and your lucky to leave by 8. We confronted him about getting his shit together a few weeks ago, his reply was “I’m sick of complying with other peoples schedule, I’m doing my own thing”. My faithful token skier friend and I looked at each other dumbfounded. Well than I replied, looks like we wont be calling you next time. He hasn’t been out again.
    Moral of my off topic rant. Weak links break.

    #663631
    KGN
    215 Posts

    It really just depends on the tour. Some places are just as quick for boarders and skiers, others are deadly annoying on a snowboard. I can keep up, and often pass most skiers going in, but on the out I get destroyed on many of our exits here. So likely for me, I will relearn skiing again for some routes, and split for others. I said it, I like skiing too, I dont have any issue with skiing, so suck it Burton 😉

    #663630
    powslash
    382 Posts

    @taft wrote:

    there is a lot of dick swinging in this thread

    There needs to be a emoticon for this.

    #663629
    vapor
    350 Posts

    @matt Wood wrote:

    I don’t see what’s the big deal here. If your efficient and have your system down you should be able to keep up (for the most part). When I started splitting I must have transitioned (In my living room) 50 times before ever getting on snow.

    That said, I do get frustrated when fellow splitters don’t have there shit together. Nothings more annoying when even though it’s a no rush situation, people are fumbling around. We have a guy in our crew whos the worst! Meet him at the trailhead @ 7 and your lucky to leave by 8. We confronted him about getting his shit together a few weeks ago, his reply was “I’m sick of complying with other peoples schedule, I’m doing my own thing”. My faithful token skier friend and I looked at each other dumbfounded. Well than I replied, looks like we wont be calling you next time. He hasn’t been out again.
    Moral of my off topic rant. Weak links break.

    :thumpsup:

    #663627
    Matt a.d.
    35 Posts

    @zude wrote:

    pooping is critical

    Easily the most important recommendation in this entire thread.

    Honestly, just get out more. You’ll get more efficient at everything and the extra two minutes it might take to transition won’t even matter. It also helps if you’re willing to “out-gnarly” all your skier “friends” on the down.

    The only advantage skiers have is super-steep ice.

    #663628
    KGN
    215 Posts

    learn to ski your split. not just pizza down a slope but shred it in two plank, trees, mank, crud, the works.

    those two thing are the equalizer.

    :twocents:

    Curious to know how many people can shred on their split skis? I def cannot. There is just no way I can edge that fat ski with a soft boot. People have different exits where they ride, so I am sure results vary, but I know I pray for my life when I am exiting steep, hard snow tree sections.

    #663626
    paulster
    130 Posts

    As both a skier and a splitter, I think it is pretty simple. You can’t transition as fast as a skier unless you seek out pokey skiers. Assuming you are fit enough to keep up on the skinner and social enough to want to talk to your partners on the climb, the best you can do is practice making very efficient transitions, be careful where you stop, eat efficiently (put food in your pockets so you can munch on the climb, figure out how to traverse, and tour with compatible people. No, it’s not a race, but it isn’t a great feeling to always have partners waiting for you and sometimes you want to get off a ridgeline quickly. If you are slope test dummy, it is pretty easy to get to the bottom faster than most skiers and get a jump on your transition.

    I’ve found that if your partners are always grumpy about you being behind or you are always grumpy about a partner falling behind, you need new partners.

    #663625
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    @kgn wrote:

    learn to ski your split. not just pizza down a slope but shred it in two plank, trees, mank, crud, the works.

    those two thing are the equalizer.

    :twocents:

    Curious to know how many people can shred on their split skis? I def cannot. There is just no way I can edge that fat ski with a soft boot. People have different exits where they ride, so I am sure results vary, but I know I pray for my life when I am exiting steep, hard snow tree sections.

    cough hardboots cough 😉

    that being said I don’t shred on my split skis, but hardboots help a lot.

    #663624
    treetop
    63 Posts

    @kgn wrote:

    Curious to know how many people can shred on their split skis? I def cannot. There is just no way I can edge that fat ski with a soft boot. People have different exits where they ride, so I am sure results vary, but I know I pray for my life when I am exiting steep, hard snow tree sections.

    I wouldn’t call it shredding, but I can get by. That took a lot of practice and awkward falls to pick up. I think for the coastal bushwhack- rolling, tight trees, and weird snow- having short wide skis and leather boots (your splitboard as skis) can work pretty well.

    Also, this made me think of the Scott Newsome Interview from push.ca:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120519235944/http://push.ca/blogs/spencerfrancey/archive/2011/04/08/scott-newsome-canada-s-first-snowboard-guide.aspx

    What are the pros and cons to guiding on a board?
    I personally have spent many years of my life trying to show people that their are no pros or cons to guiding on a board or skis. With the splitboard I can become a skier and ski in any situation that may arise, and the snowboard is just the tool I prefer to use while riding down the mountains.

    So you use a splitboard. How often are you in ski mode when you’re out with clients?
    A lot. I use it operationally with the heli to hit pickups, traverses, flats, certain ski cutting scenarios,

    #663623
    schwalbster
    321 Posts

    @matt a.d. wrote:

    @zude wrote:

    pooping is critical

    Easily the most important recommendation in this entire thread.

    Totally cracked me up! 😆 😆 😆 Thank you!

    After much research, experimentation and consideration, I have decided adulthood is not for me. Thank you for the opportunity.

    #663622
    ChompOnThis
    22 Posts

    @treetop wrote:

    I wouldn’t call it shredding, but I can get by.

    The first time I tried to ski the split it was a shit show and the guy I was riding with, who could split ski a whole better than myself, was having the time of his life watching me flail. It’s definitely something that gets easier each time and I skill I want/need to develop. Also, doing tele-turns is pretty entertaining :mrgreen:

    #663621
    Taft
    287 Posts

    I have said before that every year I splitboard the more time i spend in ski mode. though that may have leveled out a bit these days. I do have more fun skiing low angle stuff or short shots then snowboarding them for the most part.

    a lot of younger snowboarders have never skied, and I think this is a huge disadvantage. most snowboarders in their mid 30’s or older have most likely spend some time of skis. I started on skis, both XC and alpine, till my mid teens when it was clear that snowboarding was much more fun. skiing in the early 90’s was in a sad state. a couple years ago I spent a few days on the hill skiing , even took my level 1 ski instructor. it helped a lot.

    i may not “shred” but some times it feels like i am. does that count. 😆

    #663638
    nickstayner
    700 Posts

    Agree with taft. I don’t “shred” either, but I can link turns up to probably 35degrees when the snow surface is good. I roll with Sparks and softboots and can definitely get my edge in while splitskiing, and know plenty of other softbooters who can as well. Hardboots not mandatory.

    Like others have said on here, each time you go out it gets better and just like learning to ride, you’ll have little breakthrough moments along the way that are really gratifying. And for those of you who suck now, just remember that the goal isn’t to be able to rip a slope like you’re on a board… it’s an efficient transportation thing. Just keep an open, beginner’s mind and you’ll have lots of fun.

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