In relation to this thread, yesterday it was announced that K2 bought BCA! So im guessing there will be a lot more K2 backcountry products coming out soon.
Also I rode clickers for 12+ years and loved them. Lots of hiking in [Hanging Valley Wall & Highlands Bowl Aspen, CO] and out of bounds. Rarely did i have trouble with snow/ ice build up. I enjoyed the stiffer boots, which i know was so against the park/pipe rat cool guys snowboarding thing. And most importantly loved the positive toe heel lock down connection. Also the later models of bindings [Magma] were super damp, and had great adjustability with canting. For my first 3+ years i used clickers with my split board. Before that I had the K2 clicker approach skis & snowshoes. All good products, with great interface. I think it is great K2 is finally back after a long absence in pushing the side/ backcountry gear for all of us.
It’s hard to tell how experienced those guys were with splitting in general, or how much of the fumbling was due to lack of familiarity with the K2 components. It did not exactly seem like a ringing endorsement in real-world conditions in any case, but then it was a nice change from the drippingly-positive infomercials we are so often subjected to: “hey, let’s interview the board designer and get his take on how awesome his creation is!”
I bought K2 Clickers the first year they were made, which was something like 18 years ago. That and my trusty 169 Eldorado. I was too cheap to ever change my gear out for the longest time, but I recall not really loving the click in bindings very much. They were kind of finicky to get into, and were very prone to getting ice jammed into them. I was quite happy when I finally graduated to regular strap bindings and never looked back. I guess they were ok to learn on which was my priority at the time.
As for 2013, it just seems like they are squeezing just a little more juice from a pretty dry lemon by refreshing that old Shimano patented system. While there are some fans for the clicker system, I can’t see people really choosing this over Karakorum, or Spark.
It’s too bad, K2 is a company with quite a bit of potential, but they don’t really seem to be getting it.
Seriously not impressed after watching the video. The pivot point in touring mode seems well under the ball of the foot… Imagine this on a few hours hike…
wow, I’m a K2 fan but unimpressed. that vid in the icy snow made the finicky factor pretty blatant. Not sure why he didn’t remove one slider and mount the tour mode instead of stickin’em in the snow 1st? size 12s in tour mode w/locked in forward lean looks like a short stride and painful toes.
all for new stuff in the market and companies giving it a shot. This seems kind of gimmicky though. I imagine it will be a decent system with a competitive weight. But the boot reliance is a weakness imo.. you rely on K2 for boot/binding/touring interfaces. I think the past few years have shown that certain companies are better at certain hardware. Compatibility is a big plus that lets you mix and match to get the perfect system for your own requirements.
That said, interested to see how it performs, particularly with the ride feel versus Kram/Phantom/Spark/Voile.
It’s hard to tell how experienced those guys were with splitting in general, or how much of the fumbling was due to lack of familiarity with the K2 components. It did not exactly seem like a ringing endorsement in real-world conditions in any case, but then it was a nice change from the drippingly-positive infomercials we are so often subjected to: “hey, let’s interview the board designer and get his take on how awesome his creation is!”
Philip.ak we are not into the clicker, or kwicker binding it was the bluddy first time that we tried it. My opinion about the system is you need practice to get used to it. As you know some people like it a lot other do not. It depends on the rider. About our experience, just check out our page and you can get a better picture of how deep we are into “splitting”. http://www.splitboarding.eu/en Enjoy!
Personally speaking, 9/10 snowboard missions involve getting on an airplane for me (pushing baggage weight limits anyway), so any system that requires me to have an EXTRA set of boots just for splitboarding is a bridge too far no matter how good the system is. (hence why I am yet to go hard boots).
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I think the ultra split looks good, this board and the spark magneto bindings would be pretty awesome as long as something hasn’t been designed finicky with those cool pucks to only work on burton specific channels…
I am still riding Clickers as of this morning for over 15 years (and splitting with them for 13). Been told how much they suck for about… 15 years too. Was about about to give up and get some strappy bindings and boots, but now maybe not…
So has anyone ridden these? The one shop I went to a few weeks ago the guy said they were super stiff (ski boots) and expensive ($450 ish) he said they wouldn’t carry them next year. But this guy wasn’t backcountry, more of a regular shop that had a couple splits . It’s April now I’m sure people have ridden these, did they fix the issues of the 1990’s?
I have to wonder if the guy in the vid Powder_Rider posted has ever skinned before? He´s walking the split like snowshoes 🙄 No comments on the music, I hope this is not official K2 marketing material. On the positive side, the skin attachment seems quite nice and works quite well on skis. I´d like to put on and remove skins with the board assembled, in my opinion that would lessen the possibility of dropping stuff downhill on a sketchy changeover place. Never happened though, but it is very possible with the current gear.
What are the poles? They seem to be quite short 3-piece poles with a voile style pin for the lower part and a flock flock upper for adjustability.
We’ve been testing it a couple of days in the Pyrenees. I haven’t tried the boot and system as the boot we have for testing is too small, but I’ve tried the board with specific bindings.
The conditions were powder and spring snow. The board rides great, it floats really good in powder even it was a bit short than what I usually ride. It skins quite good also due to the flat section under the feet. It’s very easy to ride, with a good edge to edge transition. I didn’t have the chance to ride hardpack yet but it looks quite solid.
The channel thing is good. I’m not so obssessed with my stance, I just set it at the beginning of the season and don’t change it, so for me it’s not a big deal.
the skin attachment works very good, it’s the same one as the Panoramic. I wish more brands would do it this way!