Forums Splitboard Talk Forum iguchi & jones do the otterbody
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  • #578585
    christoph benells
    717 Posts
    #667736
    chrisNZ
    304 Posts

    Wholly next level stuff. Fitwells look like they are up to the job. Inspiring.

    #667737
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    Digging the photos. Nice work Jones and Guch!

    #667738
    HikeforTurns
    1113 Posts

    the guch on a split? :thatrocks:

    #split-it

    #approachskissuckformountaineering

    #667739
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    @chrisnz wrote:

    Wholly next level stuff. Fitwells look like they are up to the job. Inspiring.

    As are Vans, Guch does it in style. 🙂

    #667740
    nickstayner
    700 Posts

    These guys definitely pulled off a rad descent in totally enviable conditions! I have to say though, I think most of the credit for this project should go to their guides Brendan Oneill and Zahan Billamoria. I grew up in Jackson and have watched Brendan progress from a Mountain High Pizza-slingin’ ski bum to a badass rock climber & nationally ranked rando racer. Now he’s pulling off some of the most impressive guiding feats in the country. He also just made the first descent of the Grand Teton’s North Face http://www.climbing.com/news/first-ski-descent-of-north-face-of-the-grand-teton/ !

    I thought the Deeper movies were supposed to be about self-supported backcountry snowboarding and adventure? Just my :twocents:, but this descent really isn’t that impressive to me for the snowboarding. Apparently they had a helicopter filming them and flying low all day long as well…

    As a guiding feat, it’s incredible and unparalleled, but it just doesn’t seem to fit with the whole legacy of the other “Deeper” films.

    #667741
    Killclimbz
    1165 Posts

    Nit picker! 😆

    Seriously amazing. Wow…

    #667742
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    @nickstayner wrote:

    These guys definitely pulled off a rad descent in totally enviable conditions! I have to say though, I think most of the credit for this project should go to their guides Brendan Oneill and Zahan Billamoria. I grew up in Jackson and have watched Brendan progress from a Mountain High Pizza-slingin’ ski bum to a badass rock climber & nationally ranked rando racer. Now he’s pulling off some of the most impressive guiding feats in the country. He also just made the first descent of the Grand Teton’s North Face http://www.climbing.com/news/first-ski-descent-of-north-face-of-the-grand-teton/ !

    I thought the Deeper movies were supposed to be about self-supported backcountry snowboarding and adventure? Just my :twocents:, but this descent really isn’t that impressive to me for the snowboarding. Apparently they had a helicopter filming them and flying low all day long as well…

    As a guiding feat, it’s incredible and unparalleled, but it just doesn’t seem to fit with the whole legacy of the other “Deeper” films.

    agreed. while I think any trip down the otterbody is absolutely amazing, i’m somewhat surprised they used the guides. those guys deserve a lot of credit. when the movie comes out we will see exactly what their role was, I will be a little bummed if they are breaking trail, setting up anchors, cleaning the route, etc… for jones and iguchi. I will say I take a little pride in the fact that the tetons have shut jones down for 3 years before he was able to unlock the Grand. from the photos it looked like they went up the OS and not the normal winter ascent route of ford/stettner. the belly roll has to be fun in snowboard boots and skis/board on your back.

    while I’m not trying to naysay or down play the route in any way I agree that it doesn’t really seem to fit in with the whole self supported, fuck emails/cell phone theme of the deeper trilogy, I mean there is 3G on top of the grand for christsake 😉 I know I will get shit for this but I think this is just another example of play-school snowboard mountaineering from professional snowboarders. lots(ok maybe a few every year or every other year) of no-name dudes are skiing the otterbody unguided, in one day, and making it into work for their evening shift. Personally I think it would have been rad if stephen koch could have been included, if you want to talk about amazing snowboard mountaineering that dude should definitely be in the movie. and since i’m the fucking expert and nit picking this to death they should have done the hossack-mcgowan route, I hear its a double black diamond.

    anyway end rant. for info on how rowdy the otterbody is, check this description here.
    http://www.getstrongergolonger.com/journal/2013/3/16/my-otter-body-experience.html

    #667743
    christoph benells
    717 Posts

    Nick and Dan-

    That’s exactly what I said

    I had to edit my post

    Stephen Koch wouldn’t have used no guide

    #667744
    nickstayner
    700 Posts

    @christoph benells wrote:

    Nick and Dan-

    That’s exactly what I said

    I had to edit my post

    Stephen Koch wouldn’t have used no guide

    Which post are you talking about?

    #667745
    christoph benells
    717 Posts

    I feel like jones is really taking advantage of snowboarders’ lack of knowledge in alpine climbing.

    Why is there someone on cliff above jones but he is tied in as if he is leading? If he is leading he needs to protect that belay…

    My original post, that started the thread, had to edit that, it was very opinionated at first, changed it to see others thoughts first

    #667746
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    @christoph benells wrote:

    I feel like jones is really taking advantage of snowboarders’ lack of knowledge in alpine climbing.

    Why is there someone on cliff above jones but he is tied in as if he is leading? If he is leading he needs to protect that belay…

    My original post, that started the thread, had to edit that, it was very opinionated at first, changed it to see others thoughts first

    You guys got it all figured out don’t ya? Like there is some huge conspiracy going on here. Shit, I bet they did it all in front of a green screen. Drop the drama, the guys climbed and rode a serious route. They aren’t claiming a first ascent, or an onsite red point blah blah blah. I’m guessing JJ is just upping his game for other objectives that he has planned and wanted to learn from some of the best guides out there. That’s what the whole movie series is about, progression, and learning from others is one of the best ways to progress.

    #667747
    christoph benells
    717 Posts

    I won’t say igot it all figured out but if he’s gonna put mountaineering in his movies he should at least do it right.

    I already watched him on top rope on tour ronde, I’d rather watch a movie about those guides.

    Oh and isn’t it supposed to called higher? Isn’t the grand like 12,000

    #667748
    nickstayner
    700 Posts

    So shredgnar, don’t you think the style is a little headscratching? Is it really a progression, as you say, if you can’t get to the top and safely down on your own?

    It may be “sick”, “rad”, “gnar”, blah blah… but are you seriously saying that a guided ascent/descent constitutes progress?

    #667749
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    You guys just don’t get it. This might not even be for the movie, maybe these guys are trying to learn and progress to the point where they can climb higher peaks. Spending time on the rocks and in the mountains is all part of that. They aren’t hiding the fact that they are being guided and are supported, this is just a blog about two guys climbing the Grand and riding it, but y’all gotta get your panties in a bunch about it. It’s pretty pathetic really, for a couple of hardcore mountaineers like yourselves to be so bent out of shape about it that you have to pound your chests on an internet forum.

    I’m out of this one, better things to do.

    #667750
    Zude
    367 Posts

    I doubt the guides feel the same way as some of these posters. I’m no mountaineer but love to hike and ride. See nothing wrong with Jones or who-ever learning from those more knowledgable than themselves. Personaly i’ve learned alot about snow science from friends willing to spend time with me in the backcountry (classes/books are worth while as well).
    Hopefully Jones gives credit were credit is due..

    #667751
    christoph benells
    717 Posts

    @shredgnar wrote:

    You guys just don’t get it. This might not even be for the movie, maybe these guys are trying to learn and progress to the point where they can climb higher peaks. Spending time on the rocks and in the mountains is all part of that. They aren’t hiding the fact that they are being guided and are supported, this is just a blog about two guys climbing the Grand and riding it, but y’all gotta get your panties in a bunch about it. It’s pretty pathetic really, for a couple of hardcore mountaineers like yourselves to be so bent out of shape about it that you have to pound your chests on an internet forum.

    I’m out of this one, better things to do.

    I’m not beating my chest or bent out of shape in the slightest, all I’m saying is he is tricking you guys, yourself included shredgnar

    #667752
    nickstayner
    700 Posts

    Chest thumping? Pathetic? Jeez shred! I’m not trying to take away from their achievement or anything like that. Like they care what I think! I only posted because nobody had mentioned that it was a guided climb/descent. I think that’s important, and I also wanted to give props to my pal Brendan, their guide. That’s all. You brought up progression (you never answered my question by the way!).

    I will be REALLY impressed when someone shreds this route by their own means!

    #667753
    Ecobrad
    2068 Posts

    Don’t forget Tom Burt and Scott Newsome were hired to guide the Deeper crew in Alaska. I remember Jeremy and X DRue had guides in Europe too.

    Why would you not want someone watching your back when you’re riding high consequence lines in unfamiliar terrain. I respect their decision and do not think a decent with a guide is any less worthy than without. You climb the motha, then ride it, you tha man. No * needed.

    #667754
    Greenhorn
    43 Posts

    I found some pretty high-quality video footage of the Otterbody descent. Looks like they did not use guides, but were serenaded by a country music performer during the descent.

    [youtube:3bqtb8mi]dg0V9rYnFQY[/youtube:3bqtb8mi]

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