Here’s an email I received the week of 9/11, after hearing our Rotary speaker for the week, an Iraq war vet say “the american tax payer is being raped by Halliburton, they sell a 15 cent bottle of water to the army for $4.00.” These are pretty strong words for Rotary.
The letter: Houston Texas based Halliburton has come to MFG.com to assist them in finding new shops that meet a very specific criteria. Currently they have posted 35 machining RFQs that on MFG.com right now as invite only RFQs. From what I understand you will have to have the ability to machine about 40 inches and have plenty of open capacity to work with them on a ongoing basis. You will be unable to see these RFQs in your test account so we will have to schedule time together so I can show you these projects. This could be the only opportunity that you have to work with one of the largest companies in the world…do not pass on this. Please let me know ASAP if you are interested in looking at these jobs. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Best, MFG.com
Hmmmm, Something like “death first” or “I hope to see Halliburton execs brought up on war profiteering charges during the next administration”
Thought A) You are only personally responsible for your own honesty in you business dealings, not for the company you supply. Thought B) If you know that the company you supply is being dishonest with what you are supplying them with, you are responsible to point it out to whomever needs to know. Maybe I wouldn’t touch it with a 10 ft. pole if you feel they are going to shaft someone with your product, financially speaking…..
Offer to supply them with the bottle of water at a cost of $3.00. They won’t buy it, leaving you to continue worrying about splitboard bindings, quickly forgetting bottles of water and ethics. 😉
if you dont do it, someone else will. Id take the job, then if you are concerned about troops, taxpayers, etc. use some of the profit to do something about it. Halliburton wont give a shit if you tell them to go f off and die, theyll just move along, there’s billions to be made.
I’ m no fan of Darth Vader’s old company either, but this summer this super rich guy who had invested heavily in Halliburton (which we had discussed) gave me a fat tip “complements of Halliburton.” I couldn’t say no…
Good luck with your moral quandary, but if you take the work be sure to tell them they gotta wait for all the splitter to get their binders.
I’m likely to be faced with a simialr moral quandry at some point in the next few years. Right now I work my ass of so that my employer, a University, can build on wetlands. I don’t feel too bad about it because of the greater good we’re doing for my region and for the astronomical amount of land we’ve set aside for future generations. My serious quandry will come in a couple years when I’ll be looking to move to the mountains. Most of the companies who could use my skills will either be big time developers or extraction companies. I could make a lot of money working for a mining company AND live in the mountains. Would it be worth it? I have a metal truck and use paper just like most Americans. Hmmm. I could also probably find a job with one of the huge resort comanies. I’m not afraid to stay in a slope side condo and ride the lifts but do I want to help build them? Hmmm
It seems to me that you’ve all been missing the point of Will’s request. He has no moral quandary; he knows he isn’t going to take part in the work. He merely wants to know how he should respond, does he tell them in no uncertain terms why or does he politely decline. The “nutter” in me says give-’em-hell…but the realist says if you’re going to decline do so politely.
on the other hand, maybe you could “wipe” with the offer letter and send it back to them.
All good advice guys. I’m electing not to participate and am letting the offer pass on by without reply. I am curious how others would turn this one down, the wiping idea and the $3.00 bottle of water offer are both good.
I think Eco’s quandary is tougher. It seems to me that lots of environmental engineers are hired to just keep a company barely in compliance, or provide the illusion thereof. I encourage you to tell them what they need to hear to get yourself in the door and then fight the good fight from there on out. Getting canned for doing the right thing is an honor! Our bad neighbor here in big sky, the yellowstone club, is setting a really poor example http://www.wildrockiesalliance.org/news/2007/01-27-most_expensive_house.html Perhaps if they had you on board they wouldn’t have such a bad rep.
Will, I know that your bindings won’t make you filthy rich, but they have surely endeared you to us… I congratulate you for bringing this to our attention. This is another great example of the greater inter-connectedness of “everything” in todays world. It’s a small world we keep and a small world we must try and respect. The subversive possibilities of this request might not be apparent; they might need a change of dress. There still remains the idea of infiltrating The Corporation to further our needs. Maybe Chaney needs a Chugach spine drop to set him straight or bury him. fuck it, dude, let’s go bowling
I think Eco’s quandary is tougher. It seems to me that lots of environmental engineers are hired to just keep a company barely in compliance, or provide the illusion thereof. I encourage you to tell them what they need to hear to get yourself in the door and then fight the good fight from there on out. Getting canned for doing the right thing is an honor! Our bad neighbor here in big sky, the yellowstone club, is setting a really poor example http://www.wildrockiesalliance.org/news/2007/01-27-most_expensive_house.html Perhaps if they had you on board they wouldn’t have such a bad rep.
I think there is a balance to be found for sure. I’ve been in the industry for ~13 years and am happy to say my ethics have never been compramised nor have I been pressured to turn my head, so to speak. I definetely feel like I’ve been lucky to have had pretty darn good employers. Not to say that I didn’t have a big say in who I’ve worked for though. It’s kinda like pickin your wife. Don’t complain if you pick a little bitch. 😆
All that said, I have a hard time envisioning myself working for an extraction company.
Will, It’s nice to know some don’t sell out to capitalist greed. I beleive thats the biggest reward you could ever have. If telling them what you think or voicing your opinion helps you ethically, do it, you have a good thing going and seem real solid. You may catch others attention with your actions in a “practice what you preach” type thing and change a few folks in the process. Nice job, Ryon
With 6 billion people on the planet it is hard to believe that any one of us makes a difference. However the act of pausing to contemplate the effects of our actions on others and the environment creates an opportunity for something positive to happen.