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  • #670509
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    @barrows wrote:

    tindy=frontside straight air, names may change, but the style remains the same.

    What? You must be a hardbooter. Tindy=tail Indy

    #670510
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    @shredgnar wrote:

    @barrows wrote:

    tindy=frontside straight air, names may change, but the style remains the same.

    What? You must be a hardbooter. Tindy=tail Indy

    Ahhh, youth. Reinvent tricks of old and give them new names. Look back to the days of Dan Donelly… he was quite fond of the frontside straight air.
    To me, nothing going straight is an Indy, Indy’s require a pool,quarter pipe, or half pipe and a 180 degree turn in the air for re-entry. But it is all just nomenclature. Reminds me of how many classic alpine climbs get new names in new guidebooks, even when they have well established names originally given by the first ascent party.

    #670511
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    @barrows wrote:

    @shredgnar wrote:

    @barrows wrote:

    tindy=frontside straight air, names may change, but the style remains the same.

    What? You must be a hardbooter. Tindy=tail Indy

    Ahhh, youth. Reinvent tricks of old and give them new names. Look back to the days of Dan Donelly… he was quite fond of the frontside straight air.
    To me, nothing going straight is an Indy, Indy’s require a pool,quarter pipe, or half pipe and a 180 degree turn in the air for re-entry. But it is all just nomenclature. Reminds me of how many classic alpine climbs get new names in new guidebooks, even when they have well established names originally given by the first ascent party.

    But you are confusing two improperly named tricks. BTW, I’m more old school than you. Look at our join dates and times. I’ve got seniority. 😉

    #670512
    Jason4
    443 Posts

    Sorry Barrows, stick with hardboot knowledge. A tindy is a sloppy mix between a tailgrab and an indy. I’ll agree with you that an indy can only be done on a backside wall or hip but in this case tindy is a derogatory term for a sloppy grab. I hope I’ve shamed anyone who proudly grabs tindy to man up and get that grab firmly between the feet whether it’s a frontside air or a proper indy or reach all the way back and take hold of that tail.

    #670513
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    He’s totally writing a 5000 word essay response right now! 🙂

    #670514
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    @shredgnar wrote:

    @barrows wrote:

    @shredgnar wrote:

    @barrows wrote:

    tindy=frontside straight air, names may change, but the style remains the same.

    What? You must be a hardbooter. Tindy=tail Indy

    Ahhh, youth. Reinvent tricks of old and give them new names. Look back to the days of Dan Donelly… he was quite fond of the frontside straight air.
    To me, nothing going straight is an Indy, Indy’s require a pool,quarter pipe, or half pipe and a 180 degree turn in the air for re-entry. But it is all just nomenclature. Reminds me of how many classic alpine climbs get new names in new guidebooks, even when they have well established names originally given by the first ascent party.

    But you are confusing two improperly named tricks. BTW, I’m more old school than you. Look at our join dates and times. I’ve got seniority. 😉

    Hmmm! I do not think “old schoolness” could be defined by a join date? But, really, I would rather be younger than you, so I will accept being so in the ether of the Internet at least, hahaha.
    I did not see in the picture that it was a tail grab? I guess my vision is getting bad. It was my impression that this was a tuck knee grab between the feet, if not, then for sure I am mistaken.
    For clarity, a rear hand grab between the feet, whether tuck knee or not, going off a straight jump/drop, was referred to as a Frontside Straight Air back in the day. I always resist calling any straight air an Indy, as I would consider that disrespectful to the skaters the like of Duane Peters, who made the Indy a much more committing move than the standard backside air of the day, especially when performed in an environment like the original Combi Pool in Upland.

    EDIT: just went back and looked at the two pics, now I get it. you guys are referring the second picture (tail grab), I was referring to the first (between the feet grab). Sorry for the misunderstanding. BTW, my knowledge comes from being a skateboarder, never did that in hard boots…

    #670515
    mofoco
    94 Posts

    Ha! Thought I could get this thread back on track with some schweet hardbootin’ airs. But nope. It must be a slow Monday at work for everybody.

    Indeed, the tindy ’tis not the noblest creature on the mountain. My mention of it being the winning trick was an act of self deprication. Amazingly, wikipedia has it covered for the unaware with the first google search result:

    “The tindy is a snowboard grab in which the snowboarder grabs with his/her rear hand between the rear binding and the tail of the board on the toe edge. Its name is derived from a combination of the indy grab and the tail grab. The tindy grab is generally considered poor form in snowboarding.

    Here’s another run, with proper tail grab form. Doesn’t look as cool, though.

    #670516
    Jefe009
    675 Posts

    Slow Monday indeed… :doobie:

    K, so declaritive statement for the season #1 (and the first of many I’m sure): This year’s Oregon Splitfest will feature a Soft (flaccid) vs. Hard air contest. Nothing off limits (bring your tindy, stinkbug, roast beef grabs!) Team Hard already has ‘Rad’ Chris so I’m feeling pretty good about our chances. Bring it team flaccid! :rock:

    www.splitlife.net

    #670517
    whistlermaverick
    312 Posts

    @mofoco wrote:

    Ha! Thought I could get this thread back on track with some schweet hardbootin’ airs. But nope. It must be a slow Monday at work for everybody.

    Hilarious, love that bottom left corner.

    Looks like somebody has the time to waste putting it up on Wiki…….
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Snowboard_illustrated_grabs.jpg

    Is it Ok to grab tindy doing an Iguana Backflip?

    @j.memay

    #670468
    BGnight
    1382 Posts

    I never thought indy grabs looked or felt that steezy. Mute grabs feel and look way better imo. Tail grabs are sorta in between….not really into grabs at all to be honest. Methods are the shizz. I still need to learn how to do one. Maybe this year!

    #670518
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    BTW, my knowledge comes from being a skateboarder, never did that in hard boots…

    It wouldn’t surprise me if you had though….

    OK, sorry, stop picking Barrows. He means well. 8)

    #670519

    @BGnight wrote:

    I never thought indy grabs looked or felt that steezy. Mute grabs feel and look way better imo. Tail grabs are sorta in between….not really into grabs at all to be honest. Methods are the shizz. I still need to learn how to do one. Maybe this year!

    Uh oh bg you just let your gaperedness slip out.

    Doing a mute grab strait air is almost as bad as doing a tindy grab.

    #670520
    aksltxlt
    621 Posts

    If your strapped in or Skii style “clicked in” your cheating in the first place, and grabs should be done proper! any excuse is bad style…. People always confuse grabs, bs/fs on half pipes and rails. And a method is different then melon folks! If you dont know? dont even try

    backside 180, Melon

    #670521
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    Here’s a little helper for the hardbooters out there. How many can you do? I don’t know if I’m flexible enough for some these days.

    #670522
    cometogether
    385 Posts

    Damien wants his cheat sheet back!!! :nononno:

    that shit is so classic old it doesn’t even Have method on it… or are we calling them melons?? :scratch:

    and I can only do cannonballs on the rossi 121 mini so that’s not fair. 😆

    either way, I like to grab my snowboard in the air, sometimes I get it solid and poke it proper sometimes its a half assed tindy. they all cant be the money shot!!!

    but I do see a couple SOMEWHAT stylish HB airs in here, and thanks for that its rad to see it can be done.

    #670523
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    This is a Melon Grab

    #670524
    aksltxlt
    621 Posts

    ^^^^^
    Now thats what im talkin about! even a monkey can have good style

    #670525
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    Hahaha. Thanks Mike, classic. But I think it is important to understand, that just where one grabs, and with what hand, is not what defines many tricks. The Rocket Air (thanks Christian) requires both hands to nose, and both feet to tail, hence real Rocket Airs can only be achieved by skateboarders, noboarders, and… maybe, surfers?
    Method Airs require what the chart would call a lien grab, but with the board extended above and behind the rider: this extension (tweak) is what separates the Method from an ordinary backside air. To be clear, I am not suggesting anyone is wrong, just making sure that the grab alone is not what defines a given trick.
    As far as the stylish hardboot airs, I am not the go to guy on this, not being a freestyle oriented snowboarder, my airial maneuvers are limited to Methods, Frontside straight airs, and, seldomly, the half-cab drop in, and they are very occasional as well, being in Colorado it is the rare day in the backcountry where it is safe enough to risk the extra stress on the slope which landings often cause.
    I think we need video proof as well, for me, no air counts if it is not landed cleanly. Personally, I have never been much interested in snowboard “tricks”, as it all just seems to be wanna be skateboarders, and skaters are always doing it better anyway, having no bindings. Of course, with the emphasis on going huge, and dizzying spins, style in skating airs seems to have gone away a bit, the older guys like Cab, Hosoi, and Miller are still getting it done. Of course, what Burnquist is doing on his mega ramp is just entirely insane though…

    EDIT: nice Pedro!

    #670526
    Jason4
    443 Posts

    I’m losing faith in the pillars of the hard/soft debate. At least Barrows grabs his snowboard but he does his methods with his hand in front of front foot and BG doesn’t even grab his snowboard unless he’s walking out the door with it.

    #670527
    802smuggler
    369 Posts

    Thank you Pedro for grounding us. It’s been FAR to long since I’ve seen a monkey grabbing some ta ta’s around here.

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