Not sure If we have already done this thread but I’d like to see some action from all you hard booters out there.
PLEASE post pics of you getting stylish on hard boots. Whether that be in the air, or slashing surfer banks, jibbing, whatever, I just want to see your style in hardboots.
I AM NOT A HATER- I understand the benefits and conveniences that a hard boot provides that is why I am asking to see your best stylish move.
Ironically the best hardboot style pic I’ve seen you can’t even see the boots. (cliff method on Phantom FB page) I fear that I would need to dremel the hell out of hardboots to have the tweakability that makes me feel so free.
please prove me wrong and not with classic Damien images or the like, Im talking current shots. preferable with at least a hint of boot visible. :rock:
If you want to tweak airs, you’ll have to tweak(cut/grind) the hard boots, that’s a given. At 52yrs I couldn’t care less about tweakin airs but have no probs slashin windlips, pullin 3s or landing switch in plastic shelled boots. the local park rats call me Butters, but usually a lone wolf so very little action shots of my riding.
I will be demoing a pair of Phantoms this season and have a pair of TLT5s that i will be modifying. Stoked!! I can’t wait to bust a few airs out of the pipe, just to do a true freestyle test with them. If i can replicate this shot with the Phantoms, i think that will prove the freestyle worthiness of HB’s at least to myself. Ill post later this season in this thread. As a long time freerider that is heavly freestyle influnced, its very important to me to maintain that surfy, skate feeling i want in a binding and boot. It looks to me like Keffler has the Phantoms design down pat and with the right TLT5 mods, I should be happier than ever with this set up. Bring on the snow!!
nice shots and travis that is what im talking about! but with hard boots, I too would like to try some tlt action, but I tried on the TLT 6 and its a long way from a side method in flex and feel in my mind.
I can do proper methods in very lightly modified BD Primes, I’m sure they’ll be a lot better with TLT5s. Barrows has beat the drum so much that I finally gave in and picked up a pair of used TLT5s over the weekend and will start modding them now that it’s snowing up here in the PNW. I’ll report back.
Your kinda missing the point. Ask BGnight to post pics of stinky grabs on his Sportivas or Deeluxes and your not going to get much if anything at all because “stiff softs” which is an oxy moron are not going to perform like a regular soft boot. Which is why my Deeluxes sit on the shelf and will never be used again and I’m currently using 7 year old vans kick me downs for soft boots and looking to purchase some Dynafit TLT’s as soon as I get the bones to replace my worn out MLT’s. The reason you move to this set-up is because you want to break trail and set the boot for guys like BG while feeling confident on gnarly shit. Not everyday is a pow day and if you want to go purely backcountry and retire your resort riding days your going to have to accept this fact. For all around performance, bang for you buck, quality of life reasons TLT’s are just the way to go but it’s not going to improve jib factor. Dust on crust Light is right, if you wanna go long and be strong. Here’s one final pic of Keffler, Phantom binding creator. Can’t wait to get on these.
Im not hating fellas, I don’t like crampons on my soft boots at all, let alone for long rock hard coulys. I’ve walked in AT boots, I’ve toured with HB riders, I get it.
What Im looking for is CONSISTENT tension on the downhill. Since I do tour in soft boots (burton ions) using a K setup. I slip my boots on and snug them, basically no tension for the ascent. When I get to my destination I have to tie my boots and getting the tension and flex right is a PITA, hence AT boots with 2 or 3 buckles. Not only in this faster, its easier, and I can do it with gloves on. And I will have exact tension that is consistent everytime, and when I’m done with that lap, 2-3 buckles in walk mode and go, no laces no tooling around just very simple.
That for me is a huge reason for looking into this. and crampon fitment. Colorado has one or two good summer lines. :nononno: BUT for me a lot of snowboarding is riding the air and doing grabs. so please keep posting your pics- this is cool!
I fear that I would need to Dremel the hell out of hardboots to have the tweakability that makes me feel so free.
I ride a stock Scarpa F1 boots with a ELIMINATOR TONGUE SHIMS, without modifying the boot. See http://www.tognar.com/the-eliminator-custom-tounges-pair/ I get a consistent forward lean for riding. I mostly wear these boots snug (almost loose). However, I can quickly change the tension of the boot (particularly the boot cuff) with the buckles and powerstrap. The F1 allows me a lot of adjustment in setting the forward and lateral lean, by tightening, or loosing the power strap.
I slip my boots on and snug them, basically no tension for the ascent.
The same is true for TLT5, and F1s where a lever (or buckle) releases the tension for tour mode.
It might be worth your while to try the tounge shim ($30) and carpet test or rent a pair of TLT5s.
Bomber Sidewinders might help in teawkability, altough they are heavy compared to other options. Bomber is in Silverthorne, Colorado.
Your kinda missing the point. Ask BGnight to post pics of stinky grabs on his Sportivas or Deeluxes and your not going to get much if anything at all because “stiff softs” which is an oxy moron are not going to perform like a regular soft boot. Which is why my Deeluxes sit on the shelf and will never be used again and I’m currently using 7 year old vans kick me downs for soft boots and looking to purchase some Dynafit TLT’s as soon as I get the bones to replace my worn out MLT’s. The reason you move to this set-up is because you want to break trail and set the boot for guys like BG while feeling confident on gnarly shit. Not everyday is a pow day and if you want to go purely backcountry and retire your resort riding days your going to have to accept this fact. For all around performance, bang for you buck, quality of life reasons TLT’s are just the way to go but it’s not going to improve jib factor.
LOL…wow, just wow. 😆 You’ll never see a vid on here because none exist that show what your looking for. They’ll keep referring to Voshburg making lazy turns in perfect pow as their only video evidence (even that video shows the biomechanical limitations of hard boot riding) Pictures are worthless and the one’s shown have done a terrible job of showing steeze. I don’t know why Utah cares about my riding. I don’t claim to be some steezy hucker. I’m 41. I just like to go downhill in the funnest way possible. I can’t do a 180 without falling on my ass, hardboots or not. I get why hardboots are good for the up and I’m super jealous of the current weight advantages but they are entirely unnecessary unless you’re racing skiers in Utah to see who can do the most powder farming in a day. If I get up 10 minutes later on a big, heavy mountaineering line than a hardbooter or a skier who cares? I busted my ass all day and now my set up has the advantage on the important part.
Not that you care but I’ve never used Sportivas or Deeluxes and the boots I use now are VERY flexible in the ankle. Even more so T1’s, malamutes, driver x’s, etc…They’re stiff in the SOLE foolio. Where it matters. And that doesn’t affect steeze at all. No one is talking about stiffness in lateral or fore/aft flex you kooks.
UTAH: “The reason you move to this set-up is because you want to break trail and set the boot for guys like BG while feeling confident on gnarly shit”:
Yeah, cuz you can’t beat skiers up steep firm snow in softies 🙄
Here’s me on my 2nd day with the TLT5’s getting a decent toe-side slash laid out.
I think it really comes down to angles. Classic hard-booters always ran ++ angles, which makes you look quite janky and almost knock kneed. I run a +25/-6 set up and that allows for more flexibility and more steeze.
i was blasting 6 ft + frontside airs in my tlts at windells camp this summer (with an ice ax in my hand) people didnt know what hit em. sorry no pics, but here is a nice frontside air out of a natty quarter.
BG you took that all wrong it was just in good fun and completely out of respect. You know just dishing it back, talking shit like guys do. I musta hit a sore spot when we starting talking about your 180’s. And yes for sure in the Wasatch you have to race every one to the goods including hippies on tele gear, sherpa rando racers, PowderWhores, not to even mention the heli turds. No one has a job here, I kid you not. And we do farm turns but that’s out of respect for others. And I don’t care about your riding I used your name specifically because you’ve talked shit in every hardboot related thread for the last 5 years. What’s the saying “if you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen”. Take care.