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- October 12, 2011 at 2:17 pm #575375ale_caponeParticipant
anybody try these out yet?
the silicone instead of glue sounds interesting. curious to see peoples thoughts on how well they stick. loe the idea of being able to hose of all the pine neddles and crud.October 12, 2011 at 2:55 pm #644833KGNParticipant
I searched around a few weeks ago for reviews on these. Seems the general thought is the adhesion seems to work well with the tail clips, but the skin itself is not durable. There are some reports as well of the skin sliding laterally when sidehilling, although some are reporting no problems. Apparently for 2011, they have fixed these issues, so I would wait for some other dude to test them 😉 They are fairly expensive, but could be worth it I guess.
The reviews I read were from skiers, so perhaps with a fat splitboard they would adhere better.
Seems the best skins for sheer grip are the big fat, heavy orange ones from Black Diamond.October 12, 2011 at 3:42 pm #644834jerrettParticipant
They do have a splitboard specific one now – wider, and shaped properly… also curious if anyone has tried them, i have a new board that needs skins and am intrigued by the concept of less hassle and less weightOctober 12, 2011 at 5:30 pm #644835tiltedworldParticipant
Lou Dawson reviewed the original and said the glue was great but the skin material sucked. The revised version will be tested/reviewed this season. I read somewhere that JJ was testing them too so we should have some reviews once the snow starts flying.October 14, 2011 at 11:46 pm #644836
I picked up a set of the snowboard specific ones at the end of the season last year. They worked great but I’ve only tried them in spring conditions so I cant vouch for them completely. They’re light and it is really nice not to have the glue. Where it’s really nice is on top while you’re putting them away. If you screw up the fold it’s no big deal to open them up again. I’ve had no durability issues. I’ve been out on them ~15 times and have no sign of wear. What I found when I was doing my research was that the old white ones had the issue not the new black ones (insert joke here). Anyway so far so good. One I get some more experience. with them in winter conditions I’ll post and updateOctober 25, 2011 at 4:05 am #644837stoudemaParticipant
These things look intriguing, looking forward to a few more reviews this year and in all conditons. Anyone know how much lighter they are than a “normal” pair of skins?
That said, I just pulled the trigger on a new pair of G3 skins for Christmas, so I’ll post a review on those after a few days on them.October 25, 2011 at 4:29 am #644838fititParticipant
That said, I just pulled the trigger on a new pair of G3 skins for Christmas, so I’ll post a review on those after a few days on them.
Cool I trimmed mine tonight. Will post a review this weekend and I’ll pm you a link.
I’m curious about these geckos tooNovember 1, 2011 at 5:59 am #644839TaylorParticipant
I picked up a set of the snowboard specific ones at the end of the season last year. They worked great but I’ve only tried them in spring conditions so I cant vouch for them completely. They’re light and it is really nice not to have the glue. Where it’s really nice is on top while you’re putting them away. If you screw up the fold it’s no big deal to open them up again. I’ve had no durability issues. I’ve been out on them ~15 times and have no sign of wear. What I found when I was doing my research was that the old white ones had the issue not the new black ones (insert joke here). Anyway so far so good. One I get some more experience. with them in winter conditions I’ll post and update
Sounds promising. I’d love to not have to deal with glue. Have you used them to traverse relatively steep terrain and, if so, did the glueless system hold the skins in place?
@sun_rocketNovember 1, 2011 at 2:48 pm #644842burtonParticipant
gekos ore no gekos…
2 years ago we had the same quastion….
i bay 4 sets of gekos
2 sets work – and the other 2 no – we change the boards, first i tink diferent base material…. no way.
importand for gekos youse : not to much wax on the base….. not to much polished.
tobi my touring partner say – it work s but next new board he bay the good gold bb skins with glue :thumpsup:
my mine is – not for tours you must skinn 3 times up and down.
burtonNovember 2, 2011 at 12:40 am #644841
No issues on steeps or side-hills, That said I still wouldn’t be comfortable recommending them until I’ve tried them in more weather conditions.November 2, 2011 at 7:31 pm #644840ale_caponeParticipant
thanks for the input guys!!
and thanks for the long term and insight burton.
I’d love to try some myself, but new skins are low priority right now. Ended up getting some new glue.
Maybe by the time I can afford new skins, there will be some good reveiws on these.November 6, 2011 at 4:51 pm #644843TaylorParticipant
No issues on steeps or side-hills, That said I still wouldn’t be comfortable recommending them until I’ve tried them in more weather conditions.
@sun_rocketNovember 11, 2011 at 11:17 pm #644844
so far so good. I have had my one skin peel off on a steep slope with dry snow while breaking trail. That said I have been leaving my skins in car so I’m starting handicapped and I think they have a tail clip mod out that would prevent that anyway. On the bright side I found that if the board side of the skin is covered with snow you can easily rub the snow off an stick it back on the board. I did that and it didn’t come off again.November 21, 2011 at 6:28 pm #644846November 21, 2011 at 10:37 pm #644847BGnightParticipant
I’ve ordered a pair so will give a review once I use them. I need to get some tail clips it sounds like (the split model doesn’t come with them :nononno: )November 22, 2011 at 12:37 am #644848
How timely I was just going to post a more extensive review but wild snow has done it for me.
My bottom line
No problems from 50 degrees F to 0 degrees F
more backslide on steep slopes then I’m used to (previous skins were all nylon) but it’s really only apparent in cold weather/dry snow
No more problems with skins coming off than with traditional stickum
far easier to use
I haven’t had problems with laps (though the wild snow article indicates you might)
I still have not a a full year on them so I would fully vouch for durability but no problems yet.
Disappointed to hear no tail clips. When I bought them in the spring the CO rep told me they’d be out next year. I was looking forward to getting a set. Maybe he meant “next year” literally and not “next season”. Still I would guess the sparks mod would work.
I will probably get them even though my experience is they are not necessary.
it appears they do have a tail clip mod for $19.90 another not is I got mine for $180 last year and now it looks like they’re $220. For once early adoption worked out in my favor 😀November 22, 2011 at 2:50 am #644849fititParticipantNovember 22, 2011 at 11:58 pm #644845
reread that section. He reccomendathat for all skinsJanuary 24, 2012 at 10:04 pm #644850BGnightParticipant
Finally got a day on these. I love em so far. I’m using with Sparks DIY tail clips (love them too).
You can literally pull the skins apart with two fingers on each hand. Takes no effort at all. They are MUCH lighter and less bulky than Voile/BD skins. Skinning wise the glide was amazing and although the skinning wasn’t technical this day I purposely looked for the steepest spots to try to get these to slip and I didn’t have 1 slip the whole day! This was supposed to be their weak point but so far that is a non issue. My buddy was actually slipping in front of me quite a few times with his Voile skins, however I have many more days skinning than him. Looking forward to more vigorous testing but so far very pleased with my purchase of these over G3’s.
(p.s. it was a warmer day in wet pow so didn’t really get to test potential sticky issues with multiple transitions and icing)March 25, 2012 at 2:55 pm #644851woodiecParticipant
I needed to set my wife up for her/our first splitboards.
I ordered tractors,G3,& the geckos
After seeing how hard the others pulled apart & not wanting to deal with cheat sheet issues we went with the geckos.
I installed park rear clips.
To get us use to the rigamorrow we skinned up Stowe on the groom. We decided to skin up the side of the
slope style area & watch the kids defy gravity & death. At time we had to duck into very steep tight powder
tree sections to stay within sight & out of the way.
Tough we lost footing at times when side stepping the skins never seemed to move.
so far so good
P.S. Mountain Gear.com,Venture,& Bryce at Karacorma have all been extremely great to deal with
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