@barrows wrote:

I think this is a cool idea. But it would be nice to be getting paid… That is, anyone who has ever worked with either a a cinematographer or photographer even in the least professional way knows how much “work” is involved and how much compromise is involved in terms of how much actual riding time you have to give up.
It is one thing for professional riders, who are not doing other jobs to make a living during the season, to spend a lot of time and effort filming, but for folks who work, and whose riding time is more limited (and precious), it might be a lot to ask.
Maybe something could work though, some kind of collaborative effort, where a cinematographer is willing to travel the country, filming locals, in their local terrain, showing up at locations when the snow and weather appear to be conspiring to work for filming. I would be willing to devote a couple of days this season to such a project. If thirty or forty locals across NA got into the spirit it might work if an inspired film maker was into it and enough sponsors could be found.

Nice, total thread jack in progress. :headbang:

I was thinking smaller than that to start with, something local where we pay some poor kid in film school who’s not a complete doofus in the BC to follow our little crew around our local spots in OR and WA.

I’m not thinking this would lead to groundbreaking footage of NBD lines. More like ending up at the end of the season with 15 or 20 minutes of usable footage, of course lots of it will be low angle trees and easy to get to spots.

Yeah, I hear ya on not wanting to give up riding time. I work 55+ hours a week and usually only get to ride on teh weekends. That’s why I’m pitifully short on footage from last season, epic tho it was in the NW.

I thought Mitch Toelderer rode with more style than anyone in the film. Would have liked to see more of his riding.

Nit-picking here, but I must be tiring of the high-speed sideslipping that JJ is doing so much of the time. Terje is showing some age, and his obligatory method looked forced. Next time JJ needs to invite Blair Habenicht.

Have to say I found Deeper more compelling. Perhaps it spoiled Further for me – the novelty of Deeper was part of its appeal. But I found the crew was portrayed more deeply in the first film (e.g., the filmer’s lament), and they were more interesting (e.g. the pilot in Deeper -v- the pilot in Further).

Overall, for me Further felt more formulaic – plan, suffer, get the shot. The reaction at the Emerson in Bozeman was quiet awe, not a whole lot of hooting, except for where the riders survived the beatings.

EDIT: Just watched Haakonsen in “13” and he rides strong as ever. His own discomfort in Jones’ Further contrasts with everything else he’s put on film, maybe that’s what made him appear cautious. Final caveat: These guys are all riding like legends and the terrain is downright gnarly. Kudos.

@Rider38 wrote:

….. absolutely throwing some soy milk silk turn/slash that made me get up and start scraping the hibernating wax off my quiver of sticks.

Please comment/post more often. I both laughed my ass off and related 100% to the feeling conveyed in this amazing sequence of words.

For the vid; I enjoyed Further greatly as it is the type of riding I aim for. I was disappointed not to see Xavier in this vid as his style (imho) epitomizes the pinnacle of snowboard mountaineering. Stylish, Smooth, Big and FAST!!

Bend showing was super-fun.

@wasatchfreeride84093 wrote:

I don’t understand though, for both Deeper and Further, Jeremey shot in the Wasatch . One time on Mt. Superior. But niether movie included the wasatch. If your like me and live in Utah you know that there is a lot of technical riding.

Its probably because every time they got out “Further” there were 10 people that skied the line already. 😆 They did have Utah in the outtakes last year, with Neil and Forrest. Forrest has a pretty gnarly line in it too. Personally, I’m glad they left out Utah, even though I haven’t seen Further yet. My opinion is that 1st decents and long treks should be first up. And I’m sure glad there is nowhere to splitboard near I am, so Jeremy didn’t come… 😉

You guys should have seen the hucking that went on around beckers and the echo summit area, I too am surprised not to see any of it in the film :scratch:

Late to the party as usual.

The local skate/snowboard shop brought Further to lil’ ol’ Flagstaff. Big props to Oncore Skate & Snow. Thanks dudes!

No way I’m gonna read nine pages of analysis, and I gotta agree with Tap, with some fixing,

i thought the movie was great and that some of the critiques here are dumb.

I thoroughly enjoyed it for what it is. More than anything though, I’m so glad Edmonds got his shit together for a visually beautiful film. And the editing was excellent.
Can’t wait to watch it a dozen times in the next two weeks.
Buying it right now.

That is all.

@summersgone wrote:

@BGnight wrote:

I think the sweetgrass crew could make a better movie with the same riders and same locations.

That would be a killer collaboration. I love sweetgrass, the nail the lifestyle and feel of backcountry, and I think they make some of the best movies out there, but with Solitare, there is so minimal amount of riding, just quick “teaser style” shots that piss me off. I want to see the shred more with them. Otherwise, their films kick major ass.

I haven’t seen Further yet, holding out to a live premier currently. And I’m sure I’ll be stoked still.

eh negative on that,we were pitched up next to the sweetgrass crew this year in AK and they were’nt getting near any of the lines JJ was on in the McConkeys zone.

Just watched Further myself and overall i’m a bit disappointed on the lack of depth to the Movie,JJ is rehashing the same stuff as the last movie,maybe because there was so much anticipation with this movie also,i’m going to go watch a few more times,it might grow on me

+1
@shredgnar wrote:

I think some people miss the point of the movie. It has no footage of UT or CA because he’s got footage of Svalbard, AK, Japan, and Austria. It’s not a flowery, artistic Sweetgrass film with a bunch of closeup footage of snow flakes, because it’s a documentary of the progression of the riding of JJ, and some of the best riders in the sport. It’s not a mountaineering film where he’s attempting to climb the biggest, most technical pitches to get on top, it’s a film about what can be accomplished without helicopters and still have great filming, great riding, and great terrain.

Supposedly, the next movie will be called “Higher” and can be expected to have JJ and friends attempting to ride some of the world’s highest peaks.