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  • #657981
    Jefe009
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    @Hp_Sauce wrote:

    @HikeforTurns wrote:

    Agreed on all fronts. Did Terje put on the split for a couple skinning photo ops? He rode everything on his solid.

    Terje is on the Burton team, sponsored by Burton. Do you think he carried a 2nd solid Burton board around the whole time because he liked the extra weight? Or do you think he was told that he was obliged to ride his sponsors board?

    I know what I think and it’s not the first option.

    -hps

    Pros are required by their contracts to appear in anything ‘promotional’ using their sponsor’s gear. Theoretically this is why they are sponsored…

    I don’t feel too bad for those guys tho, as they are getting paid to get flown around the world, endorsing a (usually substandard) product…

    www.splitlife.net

    #657982
    nickstayner
    Participant

    I guess my vision for my own backcountry experience is more Solitaire than Further…

    #657983
    SchralphMacchio
    Participant

    Well personally I thought Deeper had a more cohesive story than Further. You got the feeling of the progression of the project through the film’s editing. You got the feeling of being out remote and trapped in a storm on a 21 day trip – as the viewer you were worn out when the team was worn, and picked up when the riding was going down.

    With Further, they got a lot of rad faces done, but they just blew through the last bit so quickly that I felt it more about banging out lines and less about the project as a whole. I did love the Norway stuff for its uniqueness, but seeing that slab go down, and then not seeing anything in the final edit about ReO or Jimmy Chin …

    Am I the only person who is left feeling uninformed and questioning about the project’s objectives and attitude about safety? I can count four near-fatal instances deep in the BC as part of the Further project. Shit happens, I get it. But it’s almost completely ignored in the editing and construction of the film, whereas it was discussed and represented significantly more in Deeper.

    Of course, for Solitaire, someone actually DID lose a life. Arne Backstrom died on the first day of filming. But to be fair, Solitaire and Signatures aren’t films about lines or objectives. They are films about a sense of place.

    @chrishami wrote:

    Solitaire, where is the riding? Too arty, the narration from Heart of Darkness (or whatever it was) in Spanish was cheesy. The shots of crosses, cow skulls, fences, and feathers blowing in the wind were visually stunning but it still felt like a college film student project.

    As someone who struggles to creatively tell mountain stories through images, I take partial offense to “college film student project.” The level of creativity, thought, and quality that these guys have delivered is truly incredible. They’re not trying to create more of what is already out there from other outfits. Waggoner and crew are blending literature, culture, music, visual composition, and riding in their films: it’s a really hard thing to do well.

    If you want sick riding, go watch TB5 and TB6.
    If you want sick riding in the middle of nowhere, watch Deeper and Further.
    If you want pure human powered adventure, watch Greg Hill’s videos on his youtube page.

    If you want to know what it feels like to be and harmonize ski and board movements in a place like the Andes, watch Solitaire. It’s like what Shelter did for surf films, and then taken to a whole other level.

    I can tell you that when I first saw Solitaire in a theater, I wasn’t sure what to think. And then I watched the DVD on my HDTV and with my quality sound system, and the thing works like magic.

    #657984
    BGnight
    Participant

    Nice look on it Schralp.

    My dream movie would be a homegrown, Sweetgrass type flick filmed entirely in the Southern Sierra with the likes of local riders. Off the top of my head: Dan Mingori, grangero, J Morrison (yes I want skiers too), Tom Burt, Zellars, J Jones. Something visually stunning featuring lots of granite faces in alpenglow with big steep lines and multi day adventures.

    #657985
    wasatch surf
    Participant

    @BGnight wrote:

    Nice look on it Schralp.

    My dream movie would be a homegrown, Sweetgrass type flick filmed entirely in the Southern Sierra with the likes of local riders. Off the top of my head: Dan Mingori, grangero, J Morrison (yes I want skiers too), Tom Burt, Zellars, J Jones.

    YUP

    #657986
    shredgnar
    Participant

    But then it would have been called “Closer”.

    #657987
    rughty
    Participant

    @barrows wrote:

    @rughty wrote:

    So while they are flying everything in by plane to basecamp anyways (I guess not in every case), why not take a couple of trips to bring in fuel for heli powered filming. Man powered climbing is really what is really pushed in the movies anyways. Aren’t they still reaching their basecamps by machine?!

    I think that you are missing the point of what JJ is trying to achieve. Believe me, if one is dropped off by plane on a glacier in Wrangell/St Elias NP, the feeling of isolation is immense, especially if you are staying for awhile. The process they are going through is qualitatively different than that which would be achieved by using helicopters. Additionally, where they are going, helicopters are not permitted for recreational purposes.
    If one wants to see movies made with helicopters, and snow machines, watch TBwhatever.
    I applaud the fact that Jeremy Jones is trying to explore riding in areas not accessible by heli, and is seeking out new experiences.

    I’m really not missing the point. I was sayin for cinematography sake, and my truck/carpoolin gets better gas milage than yours Fuster 😉

    And BTW…JJ did use snow machines to get out for one of the segments…Just sayin

    #657988
    ale_capone
    Participant

    @BGnight wrote:

    Nice look on it Schralp.

    My dream movie would be a homegrown, Sweetgrass type flick filmed entirely in the Southern Sierra with the likes of local riders. Off the top of my head: Dan Mingori, grangero, J Morrison (yes I want skiers too), Tom Burt, Zellars, J Jones. Something visually stunning featuring lots of granite faces in alpenglow with big steep lines and multi day adventures.

    I keep sayin ths same thing about the cascades…

    Id actually like to see something like that from every region. Local dudes showcasing prime terrain.

    But yeah. I liked further.

    #657989
    UTAH
    Participant

    I would have to ask anyone critical of this movie ” did you smoke crack within 12 hours of your post?” just asking. This movie was off the hook amazing. That said my #2 movie of all time would be ‘signatures” then maybe “art of flight” right behind this and signatures. I’m speechless. I loved the japan section you could tell the first day after the wind storm was a wind buff type snow, sticky, super hard to ride, upside down. One night of clear skies sucked the water out of the surface snow making day two set-up, right side up and perfect for shredding. Something most riders don’t get ( I wouldn’t have put myself on that slope after that wind storm). These guys make funky snow conditions look so easy to ride. I love there honesty, if you don’t question every decision you make in the mountains then you probably shouldn’t be there. I loved the stoke, I ride solo but anyone I’ve spent a day in the mountains with is immediately a best friend of mine.

    #657990
    fustercluck
    Participant

    @rughty wrote:

    and my truck/carpoolin gets better gas milage than yours Fuster 😉

    Well, that depends on how much veg oil I have on hand. I also have 1200′ vert in my front yard, no driving required. :mrgreen:

    I do kinda like BG’s idea, maybe someone is motivated enough to put together an SB.com season long film with some local gnar shredding. There can even be a bonus chapter featuring some splitbooting.

    #657991
    Matt Wood
    Participant

    Terje’s andrect on the snow mound in the credits made me happy. :bananas:

    #657992
    BGnight
    Participant

    What’s “Signatures”?

    #657993
    UTAH
    Participant

    “Signatures” I think I said that right, I gave my copy to clanton and never got it back. It’s the the same guys who did Solitaire but the Japan version. I never got to see Solitaire but I’m thinking this one has a better balance of riding and story telling. Absolutely amazing video. It was the first shred video I had ever seen where I felt like someone got close to describing what riding is to me. I don’t even think it has any mainstream pro riders in it. Someone correct me if I said that wrong.

    #657994
    fustercluck
    Participant

    If I’m remembering the right flick, Signatures was kinda lame. Lots of artsy, mellow pow turns, but not much gnar or pushing-the-limits kinda riding. I wanna see people pushing limits, it inspires me to push my own limits. Even seeing JJ and crew being sketched out while hiking, make me feel like I’m being a little bitch when I get sketched on way mellower stuff.

    #657995
    BGnight
    Participant

    Watched Further the second time and for some reason it was WAAAY better than the first time. I think I was just distracted the first time and couldn’t soak it all in. Who knows :scratch:
    Can’t wait to watch in in Blu Ray on my buddy’s 10′ home theater!

    fuster, you should hang with me cuz I push the limits….

    …of being grumpy on the internet 🙄
    Jesus titty fucking christ I’m glad it’s finally snowing :headbang:

    #657996
    fustercluck
    Participant

    @BGnight wrote:

    fuster, you should hang with me cuz I push the limits….

    …of being grumpy on the internet 🙄
    Jesus titty fucking christ I’m glad it’s finally snowing :headbang:

    Word, I have a feeling we’ll be bumping into each other Thursdayish for some anti-grump therapy :thumpsup:

    #657997
    chrishami
    Participant

    @SchralphMacchio wrote:

    Well personally I thought Deeper had a more cohesive story than Further. You got the feeling of the progression of the project through the film’s editing. You got the feeling of being out remote and trapped in a storm on a 21 day trip – as the viewer you were worn out when the team was worn, and picked up when the riding was going down.

    With Further, they got a lot of rad faces done, but they just blew through the last bit so quickly that I felt it more about banging out lines and less about the project as a whole. I did love the Norway stuff for its uniqueness, but seeing that slab go down, and then not seeing anything in the final edit about ReO or Jimmy Chin …

    Am I the only person who is left feeling uninformed and questioning about the project’s objectives and attitude about safety? I can count four near-fatal instances deep in the BC as part of the Further project. Shit happens, I get it. But it’s almost completely ignored in the editing and construction of the film, whereas it was discussed and represented significantly more in Deeper.

    Of course, for Solitaire, someone actually DID lose a life. Arne Backstrom died on the first day of filming. But to be fair, Solitaire and Signatures aren’t films about lines or objectives. They are films about a sense of place.

    @chrishami wrote:

    Solitaire, where is the riding? Too arty, the narration from Heart of Darkness (or whatever it was) in Spanish was cheesy. The shots of crosses, cow skulls, fences, and feathers blowing in the wind were visually stunning but it still felt like a college film student project.

    As someone who struggles to creatively tell mountain stories through images, I take partial offense to “college film student project.” The level of creativity, thought, and quality that these guys have delivered is truly incredible. They’re not trying to create more of what is already out there from other outfits. Waggoner and crew are blending literature, culture, music, visual composition, and riding in their films: it’s a really hard thing to do well.

    If you want sick riding, go watch TB5 and TB6.
    If you want sick riding in the middle of nowhere, watch Deeper and Further.
    If you want pure human powered adventure, watch Greg Hill’s videos on his youtube page.

    If you want to know what it feels like to be and harmonize ski and board movements in a place like the Andes, watch Solitaire. It’s like what Shelter did for surf films, and then taken to a whole other level.

    I can tell you that when I first saw Solitaire in a theater, I wasn’t sure what to think. And then I watched the DVD on my HDTV and with my quality sound system, and the thing works like magic.

    I absolutely agree with your thoughts on Further/Deeper.

    As for Solitaire, no offense intended, I was just expecting something different, more along the lines of Further/Deeper where the trip is the story. Solitaire was more like vignettes with too little (IMO) skiing/riding, though the images are striking, I do get that. I did watch Solitaire on an ipad with lots of ambient background noise (my kids beating the crap out of each other), so there is that factor as well. It’s not that I’m only looking for intense lines, I do want a story. Art of Flight, That’s it That’s All and the like are fun to watch but don’t really inspire. Big airs and more big airs, then T Rice trying to sound intellectual. This is why I love Steep so much: interesting people riding in interesting locations, the history and personal stories, I can (and do) watch it over and over.
    I’ll try to find a copy of Signatures and watch it on a real screen.

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    #657998
    Tap
    Participant

    i thought the movie was great and that most of the critiques here are dumb.

    good job Jeremy.

    #657999
    Jefe009
    Participant

    @ale_capone wrote:

    I keep sayin ths same thing about the cascades…

    Id actually like to see something like that from every region. Local dudes showcasing prime terrain.

    Nice idea! Wait, lots of us blow tons of cash on gear every year. How about chipping in on some poor filmer to boot pack around and catch the gnar as it happens?

    Cuz obviously no one of us wants to give up their day just to film their friends. 😆

    I got some bucks on it if anyone is interested… would be fun to do it as a road trip movie where you hit a bunch of spots in the NW.

    www.splitlife.net

    #658000
    barrows
    Participant

    I think this is a cool idea. But it would be nice to be getting paid… That is, anyone who has ever worked with either a a cinematographer or photographer even in the least professional way knows how much “work” is involved and how much compromise is involved in terms of how much actual riding time you have to give up.
    It is one thing for professional riders, who are not doing other jobs to make a living during the season, to spend a lot of time and effort filming, but for folks who work, and whose riding time is more limited (and precious), it might be a lot to ask.
    Maybe something could work though, some kind of collaborative effort, where a cinematographer is willing to travel the country, filming locals, in their local terrain, showing up at locations when the snow and weather appear to be conspiring to work for filming. I would be willing to devote a couple of days this season to such a project. If thirty or forty locals across NA got into the spirit it might work if an inspired film maker was into it and enough sponsors could be found.

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