Forums Splitboard Talk Forum From park to split: khyber update
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  • #574781
    FirstAscent
    111 Posts

    So these last few months I’ve been getting up to my local resort (meadows) on Mt. Hood a few times a week. I’ve been taking my park board up every time with me, it’s a Lib Tech Skate Banana. It’s really a fun board to ride! This board is setup with some Flow bindings and softer more flexible boots from Burton.

    Anyways, a section of Meadows has been closed off because of 2 large avalanches that recently happened about a month ago, Heather Canyon. Just a few days ago I see they have announced it has opened up again. Perfect time to get the splitty out for a few last rides before the end of the season…Sweet!

    Prior Khyber 156, Karakoram binders, malumutes for the boots. We get on a quick run since it’s been awhile since I had rode the split and make sure everything is good and I changed the stance a little.
    First thing I notice…WOAH, soooo stiff haha. and a little squirly at very low speeds such as just getting off a lift or going slow on flat surfaces. Must be partly because the tail end is tapered?

    Once you actually get some momentum on the hard packed snow then the prior does excellent. Once you hit the pow it is tons of fun! I forgot how much easier it just floats through everything.

    Few things I’ve noticed that I need to figure out. Since the split setup is so much stiffer I felt like it was much harder to bend my knees. Obviously my park setup has a lot more flex and the first run with the split again I felt…awkard. After the first run it felt better but man that first run was weird haha. My split was at +21/+6 and I changed it to +15/-5 and I’m not sure which I like more so I need to do some more testing with that. I may go back to the +21/+6 though.

    So far loving the split and can’t wait to really get it out where she belongs, in the BC.

    Any of you swap back and forth between a softer/flexy setup and your stiffer split often and notice a huge difference, especially on that first run?

    #639675
    wilkez
    176 Posts

    I’ve been riding a khyber for 5 years now, and it is definitely a squirrely board at low speeds on hardpack. I cannot ride that thing off a lift with 1 foot for the life of me. I blame the taper and the humungous nose as well. The old khyber, which did not have the hybrid rocker profile, were also sketchy at high speeds. They turned really well, but kept trying to turn just as well when you were going mach 10 down a bowl. The new one, with hybrid rocker, is super stable at high speeds now and is by far my favorite snowboard out there. I ride mine on the resort (whistler) for pow days…just make sure you don’t try to ride 1-foot on any downhills scootching around the lifts!

    #639676
    FirstAscent
    111 Posts

    Thanks for the info wilkez. I feel much better now. I felt like I was trying to snowboard for the first time getting off the lift haha. But yes, once I got going it was super stable and would go wherever I wanted it to. I will have to save it for the pow days only, which is what she’s for anyway =)

    p.s. I’m jealous your home resort is whistler…

    #639677
    KGN
    215 Posts

    I have one as well with hybrid rocker, haven’t rode the traditional camber ones. I love the board, but its definitely best in powder, and riding one foot is a little sketchy! I may at some point get something for firm and big arc carving, but I cant seem to go to the resort as much..hmm maybe another Prior split 🙂

    #639678
    FirstAscent
    111 Posts

    I’d love to get another prior for the more firm terrain. I am really interested in the ’12 Jones mountain twin too. We’ll see. having a blast with the khyber but haven’t reeeaallly gotten it out much.

    tried to get out last weekend but avy conditions went up the day before we wanted to go. so just waiting for the break and i’ll get her out.

    #639679
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    @firstascent wrote:

    and a little squirly at very low speeds such as just getting off a lift or going slow on flat surfaces.

    Did you De-Tune? It makes a huge difference with low speed grabby-ness.

    #639680
    FirstAscent
    111 Posts

    I’m not sure what you mean?

    #639681
    Archie McPhee
    78 Posts

    Hmm… I don’t know… I may be the only person here who doesn’t have a complaint about the Khyber (solid). This is my second season of enjoying one, and I wish I’d bought it sooner. Mine IS a traditional camber model I had them make for me, and I ride it about 80% of my time on the hill. If there’s less than 4″ of pow, I’ll ride my MFR, but if there’s more around, it’s a Khyber day. I elected for a cambered version because I rarely find only pow and this board does great on hardpack, too. I’ve never considered it more or less squirrelly than any other board one-footed; I try to spend my time with two feet locked in!

    I demoed a Khyber split at Splitfest, and when I get the chance, I’ll upgrade.

    #639682
    Wasatch_Don
    101 Posts

    I’ve been riding the Khyber split this year and have found it to be the most versatile powder board I’ve ever had. It is much more stable at high speeds than I expected and haven’t found it to be grabby at low speeds either.

    For spring conditions I use a Prior BC Split but most of the year I’m on the Khyber.

    #639683
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    De-tuning involves dulling (even rounding over) the tip and tail of a snowboard or ski at the initial contact points of the edge. New boards (& skis) as well as machine tuned snowboards (& skis) will be super sharp at these contact points. They will grab or snag on the snow and often cause a shifty or snaggy feel on flat surfaces. De-tuning will keep the tips and tail from grabbing there and keep the weight on the edge between your feet. It will not happen in powder because there is no resistance or grab.

    This is very important and is often overlooked, especially on new boards (skis). I generously de-tune my boards and longer boards (and people who jump up board sizes should de-tune more). 1″-2″ de-tune should be good on most boards.

    http://snowboarding.transworld.net/1000074913/how-to/how-to-detune-your-board/ this link tells you to de-tune the whole edge which should not be done (unless you are a box-ridin’ jib-master) please just reference the first photo and paragraph.

    Salud! Pedro :drinks:

    #639684
    KGN
    215 Posts

    @Archie McPhee wrote:

    mm… I don’t know… I may be the only person here who doesn’t have a complaint about the Khyber (solid). This is my second season of enjoying one, and I wish I’d bought it sooner. Mine IS a traditional camber model I had them make for me, and I ride it about 80% of my time on the hill.

    Wouldnt call it complaining, just some observation 😉 . I love the board, trust me. I have been looking at the MFR, going to demo it sometime. The little bit of squirliness I think is the fact that it has less camber. Im pretty used to it now, and on the down and strapped in on flats I find its no problem. Prior makes a pretty nice board and good guys there in my experience.

    #639685
    FirstAscent
    111 Posts

    Thanks Pedro, I will have to look into de-tuning it and see if I like the effect of it. Sounds like it could be good though.

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