being a member means you get a good deal and now your asking someone’s opinion to help you justify ripping them off. I am all about ripping off corporate america, but you are the one that has to live with yourself. By asking the ? it seems that at some level you feel wrong about it. good luck and ethics suck ❓
REI is a coop, so it’s not an us vs. them thing. I was told over the summer that they are considering getting rid of the 2% drop in member rebate for using a non-REI CC because they are doing so well. So, yeah, it’s a bit dodgy, but REI employees have told me they aren’t hurting in general. And besides, when you return that perfectly good freeride, some dirtbag splitter is going to pick it up at the garage sale. Just make sure you are reasonably honest with them at return time so that the return tag on the board at the garage sale doesn’t sound like the board is broken. I recommend something like “needed a better board for trees and icy conditions” or something.
So, I’m not sure I would do it or not, but ethically speaking, if you are honest with them about why you are returning it, and they don’t argue, I think you are in the clear. And based on what I’ve seen, they won’t argue.
Personally, I wouldn’t think of taking an item back that i was satisfied with. but, if the board isn’t doing it for you, then perhaps you are not satisfied.
sounds to me that you just want a mojo; but want to get a full refund on last year’s board.
they’ll take it back i’m sure…and as someone else said…someone will score it at a garage sale.
REI’s return policy is similar to Costcos… Costco used to have a no questions asked return policy on electronics like TVs, etc. well, dirtballs took advantage and were upgrading HDTVs all the time. What is costco to do? they limit the return window to 90 days, i believe. still a nice benefit to the customer. REI could go the same way if customers abuse their generous policy.
bottom line: the cost is always put back on the consumer. REI will survive; they’re a great company. nothing is ‘free’ someone’s paying for it.
Ok, now I am passing judgment. It sounds like it is ok to screw someone if they are big or if you have a personal gripe with them. Do I read that correctly?
It seems like slamming REI is a common pastime on ski related forums. In my opinion, they have gotten big and powerful by giving people the stuff they want at a reasonable price. The small businesses that went out of business when REI arrived, in my experience, shot themselves in the foot by not providing the service that a small shop can beat them with. In terms of responsible corporate citizens, REI is the leader in the outdoor industry in terms of treating employees well and initiating sustainable environmental and social responsibility programs. Here in SLC they are a huge supporter of local events and issues.
I’m disappointed in the responses to this question. If you are really disappointed in your board, yes, their warranty covers that and you should take advantage of it. If you just feel bad because they now have a board you’d rather have and you take advantage of their policies, shame on you. You are probably dishonest in other aspects of your life. Sad.
shame on you. You are probably dishonest in other aspects of your life. Sad.
Paulster, did you just get home from church (temple)? Who the fuck are you to pass judgement? Get off your high horse before someone knocks you off it.
Yes REI does some good things for the community, but that doesn’t wipe the slate clean.
Business is business and they offer a liberal return policy so that customers can return things and they can still resell them at a discounted price. I don’t think that this guy returning one board for the other is going to cause their empire to fall.
On your other point, small, mom and pop shops stand no chance against REI because they cannot compete with bulk buyers. period. I don’t care how good the service is, if you cannot offer lower prices and larger selection you cannot compete.
do it!. on a side note the returned board will probably be auctioned off to employees, which is what happens to returned goods at MEC. possibly helping someone who needs a board. 🙂
1- I am a member of the Coop and am therefore in a sense doing it to myself.
2- REI’s return policy has to make business sense for them. If they were losing rediculous amounts of money because of returns they would change the policy.
3- I purchase many things from REI because of the return policy. If it weren’t for the 100% satisfaction guarantee I would buy a lot less stuff there.
4- If they turn around and sell the used board for wholesale to someone how exactly are they losing any money?
So in answer to your question, no I wouldn’t care if someone did this to me.
i don’t know about returning a snowboard just because you want the newest model. if there is something actually wrong with your current board? my burton ions started leaking after half a season, and soggy boots really suck. i need new boots.
This is not supposed to be a flame, just clarification of my position…
When you return an item, they ask you why, so they can write it on the return tag. That tag stays on the item until it is sold at the garage sale. I have bought some pretty rough looking boots that said “wrong size” on the reason tag. The point is: DON’T LIE! This way, REI has a chance to say “Gimme a break”, and, if they don’t, the person who next gets this item knows that there is nothing wrong with it. If he wants to return the board to get something better for the kind of riding he wants to do, and he is honest with REI about it, it’s not unethical, in my opinion.
Except I, personally, am not so brave as to do that, because there is a very real possibility that the REI employee will give him a dirty look, or something. less than 50/50, but still real.
Say “I want the new board shape with the better taper and slightly stiffer flex. That’ll make it better in all-around conditions and trees.” My understanding is this is true. Would you be taking the board back if the ’07-’08 was still a freeride?
I will correct myself. I do not think that you should rip off corporate america, but be selective of the ones you help. After reading paulster and sheps posts I had to re-think what I was communicating. If you want to be a rip off, do it, but know that karma comes full force when it’s ready and if you are accountable for your sh!t you know you deserve it. Your initial post signs off with a twisted evil emoticon. Doesn’t this imply that your intent is probably dishonest? And if you believe that “business is just business” and it’s okay to be dishonest because it’s “just business” how can you trust anyone you buy anything from? trust is the backbone to maintaining social order. As much as it sucks to get screwed by someone, I surley don’t want to do that to someone else because they did it to me. whats wrong with erroring on the side of being the better person? 💡
Just to let you know, I think in the fine print on that coupon it’ll say “doesn’t apply to bikes, skis, snowboards, kayaks, special orders, etc.” Basically most of the REI coupons don’t apply to anything you would want to use them on.