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  • #638674
    Powder_Rider
    498 Posts

    provotrout wrote:
    I need to make the boots flex more side to side, maybe put some cant in the bindings.

    I use to have an pair of Burton MegaFlex boots that allowed you to dial in the tension just the right amount of side to side flex of the hard boots. Mine were the pink two buckle version. Does some have a pair of these boots to post some pics of what I am talking about? Because Burton Megaflex boot cant adjuster would be a relatively easy mod on to a AT, if you had the Burton boots.

    Also Bomber Sidewinders bindings defiantly help with side to side flex. I also get pretty good side to side flex from Burton Race Plates.

    Lastly, when first tried l splitboarding with hard boots, I would try to really tighten down the buckles of the boots. Now I try to have a relaxed snug fit and when I need to split-ski I can tighten the power strap and buckles.

    #638675
    Chimeral
    41 Posts

    @provotrout wrote:

    thanks for taking the a few mns to save me an hour of milling aorund :thumbsup:

    off to get this done!

    edit: O mai gad. This setup is going to take me from slow mfer to kinda slow mfer! Backyard tour test resulted in very high marks.

    edit v2: First day out had a good 9 mile/3k tour. The up is so much easier with the TLT5s & radical toe pieces. Night and day difference. Had to boot up a few hundred feet on a mixed snow/rock ridge and the TLTs are a lot easier to kick step and more precise on the rock.

    Probably shouldn’t have picked a 40 degree chute for my first run in the HB setup but it went fine. I need to make the boots flex more side to side, maybe put some cant in the bindings. Work to do but it’s worth it and it’s increased my confidence in the mountaineering side of splitting a lot.

    Thanks for the advice all.

    Ha! Glad to see you’re freeing your mind Matt! :headbang: What bindings did you get? Come by the shop sometime if you want to feel up a pair of Phantoms.

    #638676
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    I cut down the cuff a little to improve medial and lateral flex. Start with just a littler, ride, and repeat until you get what you want. I ride with the cuff buckle on the rear foot just snugged up, but not tight at all, and for the front foot, one notch tighter. I like to get the medial flex to where I can press my knees together so they touch.
    I also make a couple of small doughnut shapes out of bootfitting foam which I carry in my pockets. For steep sidehilling, I can close the top buckles with these doughnuts blocking the pin from locking the cuff: so I can tour a with the cuff a little tighter.
    One other tip with hard boots: to make them flex more consistently, give them a liberal spray of silicone the night before-this keeps the cuff, tongue, and lower shell plastic from binding and smooths out the movement.

    #638677
    Jason4
    443 Posts

    Have you seen the knotted rope mod that some of the skimo guys are using with TLT5s? They tie a small piece of accessory chord through the hole in the upper buckle so that it can be left hanging and you just have a pull tab on the buckle or you can flip it over so that the knot ends up between the buckle and the shell so that it pulls the cuff tight without engaging the locking tab.

    I greased mine with Slickoleum around the cuff and it works well but maybe I’ll try silicone the next time it get to the hardware store.

    #638678
    Cadderly
    42 Posts

    @Jason4 wrote:

    Have you seen the knotted rope mod that some of the skimo guys are using with TLT5s? They tie a small piece of accessory chord through the hole in the upper buckle so that it can be left hanging and you just have a pull tab on the buckle or you can flip it over so that the knot ends up between the buckle and the shell so that it pulls the cuff tight without engaging the locking tab.

    I greased mine with Slickoleum around the cuff and it works well but maybe I’ll try silicone the next time it get to the hardware store.

    Got any pics? I’m trying to picture this and understand the mod.

    Thx!

    #638679
    provotrout
    130 Posts

    @Chimeral wrote:

    Ha! Glad to see you’re freeing your mind Matt! :headbang: What bindings did you get? Come by the shop sometime if you want to feel up a pair of Phantoms.

    Using Voile plates now, going to try and demo the Phantoms at the splitfest. They look pretty sweet!

    #638680
    Jason4
    443 Posts

    @Cadderly wrote:

    Got any pics? I’m trying to picture this and understand the mod.

    Thx!

    Take a look at the following link to TGR forums. They actually have a longer thread about this boot than we do!
    http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/200054-Dynafit-TLT-5-Boot?p=3559535#post3559535

    #638666
    provotrout
    130 Posts

    so I rode a solid tester line that had some chunder, variable stuff on un-modified TLT5s (aside from removing the strap and tongue reinforcer). Did not like the forced forward lean in addition to med/lat movement, the forward flex was less noticeable but I can definitely see that being problematic in more featured terrain.

    I may not be the best candidate for a HB setup as most lines I ride are 1k vert or so and there are a lot of trees, gullies, tight exits, etc that really require maneuverability. BUT, after filing the plate to give more rear flex (almost vertical.. very slight front lean bias) and what seems like standard forward flex I’m thinking the HB people are correct in saying you don’t have to sacrifice ride feel or ability in order to obtain the uphill benefits of a HB.

    here’s my flex plate, butchered to all hell but it now feels very comparable to my 32 Team Twos, which have been my favorite snowboard boots ever.

    Appreciate the help from ppl in this thread, very confident in the progress.

    One question – for the super lightweight AT boots like Scarpa Aliens ad DyNAs, I’ve read the CF creates issues with increasing flex.. are these not viable solutions or alternatives to the TLT5s? Looking at shaving 3lbs off my TLT5s is a droolworthy proposition. I’d probably wait a season or two but curious what you guys think. A friend of a friend I toured with earlier this year had the Aliens and seemed happy with the ride (it was a faceshot blower day in Cardiac bowl though :mrgreen: ).

    #638681
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    Provo: I think most splitters have to ride the kind of terrain you describe, especially on less than perfect days, and on outtracks, etc. I totally agree that if a boot does not have adequate forward, medial, and lateral flex, dealing with whoops, bumps, trees and other obstacles in variable snow conditions can be difficult. The key is to mod the boot until you have enough flex to steer the board from the foot and ankle, while keeping the upper body and hips quiet. I slot the forward lean bar in the TLT5 even further than you have, I also cut down the cuff, more on the medial side than on the lateral side, so that I end up with softer flex to the medial side. Start small cutting down the cuff, small amounts of height reduction can increase flex quite a bit. Start by cutting down no more than a 1/4″ or so, and then ride test, and repeat, until you get the flex you are comfortable with. Also, before cutting a lot, think about the consequences (more lateral and medial flex will affect tour mode performance) and make sure the boot is not going to have issues, like edges of plastic getting hooked on each other in extreme flex situations. If you think about what you are doing before you do it it should all work out fine. I basically mod the boots ’til they flex pretty much the same a s a “perfect” pair of soft boots.
    Carbon fiber is used in AT boots to achieve high degrees of lateral and medial stiffness without increasing weight. I think if the goal is to have a boot with supreme riding performance, then carbon fiber cuffs would be a bad idea-I very much doubt that it would be possible to get the carbon cuff boots to flex well enough laterally and medially for great riding performance.

    #638682
    provotrout
    130 Posts

    Thanks – for cuff trimming you’re talking about trimming the green cuff, black cuff or white inside cuff/shell? Stupid question but that’s the last thing I think is necessary to get these things riding perfect.

    #638683
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    I am talking about the green outer cuff. On some boots, cutting down the inner shell (white on the TLT5) can work as well. I encourage experimentation. But, consider all the ways the different layers of plastic interact with deep flex; you want to avoid situations where the plastic layers could bind on each other. So, think before you cut, and run the boot through deep flex.

    #638684
    provotrout
    130 Posts

    Thanks again. Was out of town for a bit and got a chance to ride the new flex in the boots. 2k run in tight trees on mank and crust. NIght and day difference from before the flex mod, planning to give the front foot more backward flex.. maybe leave the back foot as is for now.

    Good progress though, it didn’t feel like I was wearing a hard boot.

    #638685

    is it true that there is no tlt-5 next year?

    only tlt-6 and its all changed up and stiffer?

    been hearing this through the grapevine

    #638686
    wasatch surf
    979 Posts

    @christoph benells wrote:

    is it true that there is no tlt-5 next year?

    only tlt-6 and its all changed up and stiffer?

    been hearing this through the grapevine

    true, except I don’t think it is really any stiffer. it is wider though.

    #638687
    provotrout
    130 Posts

    this could very well have been discussed before but I’ve been leaving the back boot ankle strap firm and leaving the top open. It’s a little different having the front foot locked in with a lot of support and the back heel locked down with a very flexy fore/aft/medial flex, but I’ve really enjoyed the freedom of movement. As long as you have a solid heel lock with the ankle buckle, your back foot can initiate turns and provide a more nimble feel. The TLTs are getting close to what I consider the ideal flex/support setting.

    cheers

    #638688
    BBD
    24 Posts

    Sometimes I like to wear slippers. Sweet dreams -BBD

    #638689
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    @provotrout wrote:

    this could very well have been discussed before but I’ve been leaving the back boot ankle strap firm and leaving the top open. It’s a little different having the front foot locked in with a lot of support and the back heel locked down with a very flexy fore/aft/medial flex, but I’ve really enjoyed the freedom of movement. As long as you have a solid heel lock with the ankle buckle, your back foot can initiate turns and provide a more nimble feel. The TLTs are getting close to what I consider the ideal flex/support setting.

    cheers

    Provo, good to meet ya in UT. You mean that you are riding without the forward lean on the back foot, right? If so, that will give you a very surfy feel which could be really fun in pow and tighter terrain at slow to medium speeds. I could see this approach making a lot of sense, especially combined with the loose pin tail of the Uni Chaser. But, beware, that this approach may make it harder to hold and finish a strong heelside turn, at speed, in steeper terrain, and or in harder snow. I like having a solid highback support (with lean) for my rear leg so that can really nail hard heelside turns off the tail of the board when necessary. Everyone has their own style and preferences though, and there is nothing wrong with that! What is cool, is the different ys the boot can be tuned and used to suit different riding styles, terrain, and snow conditions.
    For me, forward lean on the back foot is necessary for my riding approach, but I do ride with the rear cuff a little looser than the front (but still snugged up, just not tight). Sometimes I turn off the forward lean on the back foot for slow speed, super tight, bobsled style exit tracks through the trees though, as this makes it easier to just push the tail around to steer (I used to do this with soft bindings as well).

    As to the TLT6: can anyone confirm that it is going to be stiffer than the 5? My TLT5s are getting pretty chewed up (this is their third season) and I am probably going to need new boots for next year. I like the increased width of the 6, but if it is stiffer, may look for a spring deal on a 5, or try another boot (the Scarpa Rush looks very interesting to me, a little heavier, but warmer, and lots of easy mod options).

    #638690
    moridinbg
    151 Posts

    I have put some more days on my TLT5s now and I am very, very sold on them. Definetly the best riding feeling and experience of all the boots I have had. Haven’t made a single mod to them, tough. The forward lean feels just right. I am even keeping the strap for now – really helps for carring. I keep it loose when in pow/soft snow, but tighten it for the hardpack and piste carving days. And as they are with the thermo foldable TF-X liners (no Intuition this season) I molded them leaning forward a bit to create more space. Maybe it’s because of the voile sliders, that I am forced to use right now – they intruduce some slack to the system. I am having hard time to find suitable type and size of aluminium to CNC my idea for a slider, but once I do it, I guess I will finally have to mod the boots.

    #638691
    whistlermaverick
    312 Posts

    As to the TLT6: can anyone confirm that it is going to be stiffer than the 5? My TLT5s are getting pretty chewed up (this is their third season) and I am probably going to need new boots for next year. I like the increased width of the 6, but if it is stiffer, may look for a spring deal on a 5

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    I’d like to know that answer too.

    Necessity is the mother of invention. Kinda, I had some boot issues, lost/broke my bottom cable on my boot. Good thing i still carry around the top power strap. Wrapped it around the arch of the foot and it got me through the day.
    Came home and went to the hardware store and picked up some aircraft cable in a couple different widths, cut it, trimmed off the plastic at the ends and crimped it.
    Its working well while I wait for Dynafit to send me another one.
    Another item thats going in my trip parts package.

    Can’t get my Intuitions tight enough with the laces so the power strap is going on around the liner.

    @j.memay

    #638692
    barrows
    1490 Posts

    jamie: Thin Spectra cord works great as a in the field fix for lost or broken cables on the buckles. This stuff weighs next to nothing, and has dozens of potential uses, it is also very much a non-stretch cord, which is what is needed. The lower buckle cable does tend to come come off of its fixture, I solved this by gluing it in place with some silicone, which is easily removed with a sharp knife if necessary.

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