I wish DPS would make a split. http://www.evo.com/skis/dps-wailer-112rp2-hybrid.aspx

Check out the camber to early rise rocker profile! http://www.dpsskis.com/en/wailer-112-rp-314.html

Take their ski shapes and make em wide! I am tired of seeing “split” versions of resort boards.

Furberg is close.

@rughty wrote:

@Skijor AK wrote:

I wish DPS would make a split. http://www.evo.com/skis/dps-wailer-112rp2-hybrid.aspx

Check out the camber to early rise rocker profile! http://www.dpsskis.com/en/wailer-112-rp-314.html

Take their ski shapes and make em wide! I am tired of seeing “split” versions of resort boards.

Furberg is close.

That camber to rocker profile isn’t really much different than the industry standard. as many have said already…I would certainly like to see more thought and testing of the board shapes we see in skis. Somebody make it please so we have something other than speculation to talk about?! :thumpsup:

With reverse side-cut?

This thread has turned into a hunt for unicorns…improve on the furberg and you might have something.

The only improvement would be to get more riders on furbergs and custom shapes to further the discussion of shapes/profiles with real world feedback. The bar has been set pretty damn high by furberg. In my opinion, the best board available. New shapes discussed in here usually get compared to furberg somewhere down the thread for a good reason. This years model may be the unicorn.

@powslash wrote:

@dtrain wrote:

Hey guys. Lurk here once in awhile. Figured I post somthing fitting.

Anywho. I’ve been building splitboards here in Prince Rupert B.C. For a couple years now. We use different variations of Sitka Spruce , Yellow Cedar, Red Cedar, and Paper Birch for cores. We don’t glass often, mostly just Basalt and Carbon.

Nice work man. The maple leaf topsheet looks great. Can you talk about your experiments with different core woods? I’ve got a buddy down here has been experimenting with doug fir and cedar. There has been a learning curve. Some results have been subpar with the softer woods breaking down too quick.

@fustercluck wrote:

why not just have one board for everything

This is crazy talk.

@BGnight wrote:

But everyone should have a pow specific quiver board to complement their every day board. That’s goes without saying.

OR A HALF DOZEN.

@permnation wrote:

This thread has turned into a hunt for unicorns…improve on the furberg and you might have something.

It has. Let the hunt continue I say. Shapes are fun. What improvements would you make to the Furberg? My experience with that shallow sidecut was sometimes good, sometimes bad depending on conditions. The ” calm and forgiving behavior” that Furberg touts just translated to boring for me. Not enough feedback from the board. Too calm. Too stable. And sometimes painful when that long strait edge would put too much leverage on my ankles. They seem committed to that sidecut for now so I’m curious to see what they come up with for profile, flex etc…

You need to charge harder, ride faster, and seek out more demanding terrain.

^nice find. Sticker shock $1120 for a solid. Moss snow sticks. Their swallowtails look nice… short tho.

The Moss Sticks model The Long with 26 to 16 progressive sidecut looks cool, but at 185 the board is aptly named. The Long would be a fun board to try out if not for the cash outlay and the prolonged preorder process. The other models look like surfers, and their pics show rolling terrain and slashing…specialized little guns for the quiver. If I was in EU, I would be tracking down one or two of their boards.
@barrows wrote:

The second generation shapes from furberg (2015 models) still feature reverse sidecut sections, but these sections are now shorter, and the effective edge is longer, I suspect the new boards will be even better (more edge grip, better edge feel in hard conditions) than the previous shapes, while retaining the easy to ride, quiet, and stable feel.

Barrows, what do you think the camber will do to the “centered” feeling of the rockered old models….mainly in powder and chopped pow? I really enjoy the ride of the original in all 3 sizes depending on the depth of snow. The “in between the bindings” control and ease/confidence is what has me hooked. I like the set it and forget it feeling or non-feeling….one can almost forget about the board and just ride.
I hope it starts snowing soon! :guinness:

I agree with that Barrows, and with Scooby’s thinking relating to long-tapered ends for rotational control: Skiers need it, we don’t, and while there’s value in longer-taper ends for off-piste snowboard shapes, for general off-piste purposes, it need not be as exaggerated as the DPS skis, or even the Gen 1 Furbergs. (That said, I think a lot depends on how design elements work together; there are many ways to skin the proverbial cat. I’m slow to write off what can and can’t be done given the general dearth of off-piste shape experimentation and evolution in the snowboard industry.)

The Moss shape (The Long) is as close to a snowboard version of a DPS-style ski that I can recall. (Which I’ve suggested in the past.) When I’ve envisioned such shapes, it’s been for pow. High float, speed stable, easy pivot. That’s the case here too; a quiver board with a narrow purpose. In fairness to Moss, from what I’ve read, that’s its intended purpose; it’s a big pow surfer.

What sets it apart is size. It’s the only big board in the high-float, easy-pivot pow genre–a Fawcett / Euphoria for big guys (which those aren’t). (Edit: And in this case a shape more accommodating of forward pressure than reverse sidecut shapes, which I prefer.) Unless the flex is way off, it should handle higher speed pow turns. And with long ends it should float and pivot / slarve easily at low and moderate speeds too, making it especially fun and surfy in tighter terrain, like in fresh trees.

I may pick one up on the cheap for pow sessions, trees and side-country at Monarch. I expect it won’t be burly enough to split, at least for me and the range of conditions I typically encounter on a day out touring. But if I do pick one up, I’ll post a report once I have a good feel for it.

Pray for snow.

Edit: I just got aced out at the last minute on an Ebay auction on this board for $425, pretty funny.

Yeah, my read was/is that flex, esp. at and fore of the front foot, makes or breaks this pow shape (literally?) — at least for bigger riders. The thinness in the profile shot ^ and Moss’ emphasis on back-foot weighting in their other pow gun shapes are other warnings of flimsiness.

But I like how they think:

Snowboarding’s past is filled with freethinking spirits and brilliant design ideas, something that has been sorely overlooked ever since snowboarding’s early nineties ski-influenced, olympic-fueled boom.