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  • January 10, 2012 at 8:07 am #576108
    kaston
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    like most of you, i have the voile tractor skins and use the cheat sheets that came with them. and like most of you, i imagine that after a few tours, the cheat sheets are starting to flake and coat the glue side of your skins. are there any better cheat sheets that don’t do this? i’ve heard from a couple skiers that the G3 skin savers don’t break up as much but the reviews at MEC say otherwise: http://reviews.mec.ca/9421-en_ca/5003-855/g3-skin-storage-mesh-kit-reviews/reviews.htm. anyone know of any better options?

    January 10, 2012 at 8:37 am #649961
    philip.ak
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    Go to a hardware store and get a roll of “gutter guard”. It is plastic mesh that goes over rain gutters to keep leaves out. It’s pretty burly stuff and won’t break down. The edges end up really sharp and pokey though. I sewed some piping on the edges of mine. It’s also pretty stiff. I got like 15 feet for $4. Too cheap not to try.

    January 10, 2012 at 9:02 am #649962
    kaston
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    i’ll try that out. thanks!

    January 10, 2012 at 6:26 pm #649963
    digerati
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    How long did it take you to sew the piping!? 😯

    Love the idea, but I think it would take be days to do that….

    January 10, 2012 at 6:34 pm #649964
    philip.ak
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    It took about 3 minutes per sheet with my sewing machine, max. If I were doing it by hand I would have tried glue.

    January 10, 2012 at 6:52 pm #649965
    kaston
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    i was just thinking duct tape around the edges

    January 10, 2012 at 7:02 pm #649966
    philip.ak
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    That may work, but I fear the skin’s glue would have a greater affinity for the tape than the tape would have for the cheat sheet. A strip of fabric folded over the edge and held in place by hot glue (sort of a hot glue and cheat sheet taco) may work too.

    January 10, 2012 at 7:41 pm #649967
    sdmarkus
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    Nice work Phil, looks pretty solid.

    The G3 Love glove from another post seems like a good option as well. I’m sure one could sew a satchel very easily that would perform just as well.

    January 11, 2012 at 3:41 am #649968
    kaston
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    love glove looks pretty slick. i like the fact that it also wicks moisture from the glue. a pretty simple idea that would be an easy DIY but i’ll probably end up buying one when it comes out.

    http://www.genuineguidegear.com/life/video/introducing-g3s-new-love-glove-climibing-skin-sack

    January 11, 2012 at 4:10 am #649969
    adammerce
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    The G-3 (red) skin savers are the only ones I’ve found to hold together. They even lasted through the whole off season without leaving chunks on my glue. Be sure to stay away from the Black Diamond ones. ( I can’t think of any other BD products that I would say this about).

    January 11, 2012 at 4:22 am #649970
    kaston
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    adammerce, the reviews on the MEC website seem to say the exact opposite: http://reviews.mec.ca/9421-en_ca/5003-855/g3-skin-storage-mesh-kit-reviews/reviews.htm. do you have the voile skins as well? if so i might have to give them a try

    February 28, 2012 at 8:07 pm #649971
    key-z
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    anybody else have first hand experience they can weigh in with? i just picked up some g3 skins and am hesitant to use the g3 cheat sheets that came with them. truth be told, they will probably last long enough for me to pick up a love glove or make my own (under armor material seems like it might work?)

    thanks for any input

    February 28, 2012 at 8:19 pm #649972
    philip.ak
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    I have a dozen days of doing 2-5 laps per outing using the stock G3 cheat sheets and they are holding up ok so far. I am using the gutter guard with edging sewn on with my BD skins since the stock ones were breaking down and shedding black plastic flakes. The gutter guard is ok but very stiff and does not fold small. It takes some getting used to, but is totally bomber. It needs edging bad though cause the cut edges are sharp as hell.

    February 28, 2012 at 8:22 pm #649973
    chrisNZ
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    g3 reds are still good after 2 years for me.

    February 28, 2012 at 8:24 pm #649974
    treetop
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    @philip.ak wrote:

    Go to a hardware store and get a roll of “gutter guard”.

    hey thanks for that! It’s been working well for me. I guess it’s bulky, but at least it is light. I used hockey tape on the edges.

    February 28, 2012 at 8:41 pm #649975
    key-z
    Participant

    thanks for the input, guys

    January 12, 2013 at 7:19 pm #649977
    philip.ak
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    Here’s another option.

    Get some 2″ diameter bulk discharge/fire hose. It is a vinyl-coated nylon and is available in many marine stores. It is a little over 3″ wide when the hose is laid flat. Cut one edge off so you can ‘unfold’ the hose length-wise, and use your waxing iron to warm the center crease through a piece of baking parchment paper to flatten the hose. The final width is over 6″, so I trimmed it down using a straight edge and a box cutter. I made mine 30″ long, so I stick half the skin to one side and then fold the skin over and stick it to the back side, then fold that sandwich in thirds. Infinitely durable and waterproof with no sharp edges or anything that needs finishing.

    January 27, 2013 at 10:55 pm #649976
    ruapehu_explorer
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    @philip.ak wrote:

    Here’s another option.

    Get some 2″ diameter bulk discharge/fire hose. It is a vinyl-coated nylon and is available in many marine stores. It is a little over 3″ wide when the hose is laid flat. Cut one edge off so you can ‘unfold’ the hose length-wise, and use your waxing iron to warm the center crease through a piece of baking parchment paper to flatten the hose. The final width is over 6″, so I trimmed it down using a straight edge and a box cutter. I made mine 30″ long, so I stick half the skin to one side and then fold the skin over and stick it to the back side, then fold that sandwich in thirds. Infinitely durable and waterproof with no sharp edges or anything that needs finishing.

    this looks awesome. how much did you pay for the hose though? were you able to buy a small amount, or did you have to buy a full hose length? with a quick search on the interweb i’ve only been able to find it being sold as entire hose lengths, which would make the cost pretty much equal or more than the g3 love glove sacky thing…

    thanks

    January 28, 2013 at 1:11 am #649978
    philip.ak
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    The local marine/hardware store has it by the foot in a few different diameters. I bought 5 feet (enough for one set of cheat sheets) at $1.49 per foot. So about $7.50 total for one set of skins.

    In the mean time I made a couple more sets for me, and I just gave a pair to a friend. The stuff works great so far. The glue releases effortlessly. :doobie:

    January 28, 2013 at 7:07 am #649979
    boyracer
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    Hey Phillip,

    Nice looking skins! Did you make those? I see some BD/Spark hardware and “split skin” style materiel in the middle? Detail please.

    :drool:

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