Forums Splitboard Talk Forum Canadians… how much duty on US made split?
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  • #573817
    Zee
    136 Posts

    So I have a Summit coming from across the border, obviously made in the US, and it’s coming FedEx ground, which means that FedEx will do their best to try and rape me on Duty/Brokerage. Has any Canadian ordered a split from the US, and how much did they charge once it landed? I’m thinking it’s US made so NAFTA should apply, so I should have to pay brokerage and GST, but I’m not putting it past FedEx to tack on duty as well.

    I really hate FedEx and UPS with a passion 🙁

    Why is it with USPS they can do the same thing for $10, and these guys need to charge 5+ times as much

    #632724
    treetop
    63 Posts

    nice board… hope it arrives soon!

    I’ve bought a few solid boards in the US, and I have never had to pay duty, though they usually make me pay sales tax. I also hate fedex… I’m a huge fan of TSB shipping (http://www.tsbshipping.com/). I think most other border towns have similar businesses. It can save a lot of time, money, and stress if you can just go pick it up and bring it across for yourself.

    #632725
    boyracer
    27 Posts

    FedEx robbed me for ~$40 for for my Venture, I got an invoice about 4 weeks after the board arrived.

    #632726
    rightsider
    150 Posts

    @zee wrote:

    Why is it with USPS they can do the same thing for $10, and these guys need to charge 5+ times as much

    Because those rates are supplemented by tax dollars.

    #632727
    BigJay
    342 Posts

    You can also arrange to pick up your package at the FedEx shipping center/offices/facility if it’s close. Then you’ll do the paperwork your self and pay only the taxes.

    I rarely ship stuff across the border unless it comes via CanadaPost or USPS!

    #632728
    Zee
    136 Posts

    Right now mine’s stuck in “Shipment exception” status due to “Improper or missing paperwork, contact Customer Service”.

    Got my Karakorams via USPS today, no duty, no taxes, no fees of any sort.

    #632729
    Hp_Sauce
    35 Posts

    (I actually signed up to this forum this weekend to post in the “Jones Mountain Twin” thread… but this one happens to be right up my field! So hello Splitboarding forum, I am the new guy!).

    In the Canadian Harmonized System, I found Snowboards under HS code: 9506.11.90.20. Which has a 7.5% duty on the value of the snowboard, plus G.S.T. (Plus Fedex’s brokerage fee).

    Snowboards could possibly also be classified under HS code: 9506.19.00.90 (which is snow sports equipment, other). Which only has 6.5% duty on the value of the snowboard, plus G.S.T. (Plus Fedex’s brokerage fee).

    (That’s assuming the Fedex people pick the right number for your snowboard… Fedex isn’t always that picky and you might get lucky, they might pick a code that is “duty free”. So then you’d only have to pay GST/Brokerage).

    Technically (if Fedex follows the rules), in order to gain the benefits of NAFTA (Duty Free), someone would have to give a NAFTA Certificate of Origin to Fedex when they are arranging customs clearance. The shipper would have to fill that out… (Can be found here: http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/E/pbg/cf/b232/b232-eng.pdf). They’d probably want to put “B” in ‘Field 7’ as articles under 9506.11 & 9506.19 appear to require “a change in subheading from any other chapter”… and they probably did imported all the parts as bits of plastic and metal, so the chapters (& subheading) they were originally categorized under would definitely have changed once they were assembled into a snowboard in the USA. (If they just imported the Snowboard from Asia/Europe already assembled as a Snowboard than NAFTA does not apply).

    The reason your Snowboard is stuck due to “improper or missing paperwork” is probably because Fedex is currently trying to track down a copy of the Commercial Invoice (showing the value you paid for the Snowboard). They would require it to be able to report everything to the Canadian Government (so they can calculate the Duty & Tax based on the value of the Snowboard). It’s also possible they are trying to track down a NAFTA Certificate of Origin… but I highly doubt that, because they probably don’t care if it qualifies or not (as the money is not coming out of their pocket).

    You should call them and ask them:
    1) What paperwork they are missing/looking for (write down what they say if it’s a technical name. And don’t let them use abbreviations like CCI or COO or Form A, etc, because that will probably just leave you more confused).
    2) What they are currently doing to resolve the problem/track down the paperwork they need (if you’re lucky they might already have it figured out).
    3) If it turns out they are missing documents, ask them for a fax# or e-mail address you can forward the missing documents to (in case you are able to track down the documents before Fedex is).
    4) It also might not hurt to ask them for a ref# or tracking# to write on the documents before you fax/e-mail them… that will make it easier for them to match up the documents with your shipment on their end, if/when you send them.

    Disclaimer:
    1) The above should be fairly accurate, but it’s a also very very brief summery of a very very complicated topic. And my HS/Tariff Classification skills are a bit rusty.
    2) The above is based on understanding and following the rules setup by the Canadian Government… Fedex does not always strive to understand or follow the rules completely, so depending on who you get handling your shipment, what training they’ve had & what company procedures they are lazy enough to ignore, your experience may vary. As I said above, they could actually classify your Snowboard wrong and you could get it Duty free!
    3) The above is meant to be a bit complicated in an effort to demonstrate that there is actually a fairly complex amount of work & understanding that goes on behind that “brokerage fee” that everyone hates paying SO much.
    4) Yes I went to school to learn how to move freight, and I currently work for a freight forwarding company… so I do sort of know what I’m talking about, though I’m still a newb compared to the folks with 20+ years in the business. And yes, the company I work for charges a minimum of (CAD) $250 for brokerage fee for shipments like this, because they are always such a hassle!

    :banghead:

    Sorry it’s so long, but it is a really complicated subject. Bottom line is:
    Snowboards should be about 7.5% duty, plus G.S.T & brokerage (when imported correctly & if a NAFTA Certificate of Origin is not provided).

    Cheers
    -hps

    #632730
    Zee
    136 Posts

    So if I read it correctly, a Never Summer board (US Manufactured) should qualify under NAFTA?

    #632731
    Hp_Sauce
    35 Posts

    @zee wrote:

    So if I read it correctly, a Never Summer board (US Manufactured) should qualify under NAFTA?

    Based on their manufacturing description on the Neversummer website, yes, it should qualify.

    -hps

    #632732
    Zee
    136 Posts

    Cool, thanks!

    #632733
    Zee
    136 Posts

    The split was supposed to get here today.. but…
    “Local weather delay, delivery not attempted”

    The irony…

    It’s really not snowing that hard

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