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  • #575318
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    I know I want to get Sparks to compliment my new Venture Zephyr and really step up from my DIY setup I have been riding the past couple of seasons to something that performs much more like a solid board. Since there are now several options for Sparks figure I would seek out some opinions about how to best spend my money.

    First off, are there any deals to be had say on previous season bindings? I have not had any luck finding any.

    Second, is anyone selling just the baseplates any more? I have plenty of other pairs of bindings lying around I could scavenge for high backs and straps if the baseplates could be picked up cheap.

    Barring either of those it seems like I should go with Burners. I generally like riding a stiffer binding so think it is worth the extra $30 over the Blazes to get the stiffer high backs and straps. Do people agree or is the difference not great enough to be worth it?

    Lastly, considering I am not trying to break the bank too bad, is going with the LT pin system worth the extra $50. To me 3.5 oz doesn’t seem like a huge amount in terms of weight saving, are there really other performance advantages that make this worth it?

    Thanks,
    Josh

    #643513
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    @phareyouwell wrote:

    First off, are there any deals to be had say on previous season bindings? I have not had any luck finding any.

    Not usually, Sparks generally sell out pretty fast!
    @phareyouwell wrote:

    Second, is anyone selling just the baseplates any more? I have plenty of other pairs of bindings lying around I could scavenge for high backs and straps if the baseplates could be picked up cheap.

    I don’t think they do anymore. Plus I paid $230 for mine (not much cheaper). you may look at Rughty’s bindings if you want some custom base-plates, they rule also!
    @phareyouwell wrote:

    Barring either of those it seems like I should go with Burners. I generally like riding a stiffer binding so think it is worth the extra $30 over the Blazes to get the stiffer high backs and straps. Do people agree or is the difference not great enough to be worth it?

    The 2011 Blazes’ are stiffer than last year (highbacks), Burner is stiffer still, but dont trust me I ride low-backs!
    @phareyouwell wrote:

    Lastly, considering I am not trying to break the bank too bad, is going with the LT pin system worth the extra $50. To me 3.5 oz doesn’t seem like a huge amount in terms of weight saving, are there really other performance advantages that make this worth it?

    Yes! It’s not all about the weight.

    #643514
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    Can you give some more details about the other performance advantages of the LT system that make it worth the cash?

    Thanks,
    Josh

    #643515
    Killclimbz
    1165 Posts

    The LT touring brackets are much smoother and solid than the Voile brackets. The weight thing I don’t see as a big deal at all. The smoother performance, that makes a big difference. Well worth the extra money IMO.

    #643516
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    Smoother how? I don’t think I ever really had a problem with the regular pins/brackets.

    #643517
    numbernine
    104 Posts

    Can you give some more details about the other performance advantages of the LT system that make it worth the cash?

    The difference is amazing compared to the standard steel brackets. Rather than roughly 1/8″ thick of bent steel plate for the pin to bear on, the LT’s give you 3/8″ of bearing with another 3/8″ on the binding itself. That adds up to 3/4″ of pin bearing (on both sides) which makes for a much smoother, tighter and torsionally stiffer connection vs. the older slider track/bent bracket system that only gives you maybe 5/16″ of bearing. Definitely worth the money, it sounds like the Karakorams are even stiffer torsionally but also cost double and I’m totally satisfied with my Sparks. Feels like a regular deck again and tours much better since I got the LT’s.

    #643518
    PedroDelfuego
    758 Posts

    As smooth as Keith Stone???

    #643519
    KGN
    215 Posts

    Ill likely be grabbing some sparks this week, I don’t know what model I will get. I really don’t know how the highback stiffness compares to other stuff I have rode. I am thinking a stiffer overall binding might be better for touring, but I am not sure.

    I will probably go for the new pin design as well because I am a sucker.

    Either way, both will be good compared to plates, and I will have a free pair of bindings for my non split, instead of swapping over.

    #643520
    Killclimbz
    1165 Posts

    I will say that another nice little upgrade if you are not going with the Karakorum system is to buy their K-Clips. The ride just feels more solid and responsive with them.

    #643521
    AndyT
    47 Posts

    here is a link to some Spark baseplates:
    http://www.thecornicestore.com.au/index.php?cPath=2
    I am not sure if they will ship back to the United states!

    #643522
    nedrapier
    235 Posts

    Don’t worry about being a sucker. The LT pins are well worth it.

    They feel more solid on your feel, traverse better, feel more controllable on the kick-turn, don’t rattle around on your feet, they’re lighter, and they look better. Bent steel plate is a bit agricultural! and I’ve read enough stories (2?) of bent voile touring brackets to know that it can happen. Hard to imagine similar damage to the LT bracket though.

    Voile brackets do the job fine. But lots of things seem fine until your try something better! Some of the improvements might be a bit marginal, but overall, well worth the extra.

    Heard plenty of good things about the K-clips, but my board’s an old Mojo, cap construction, and they rely on a vertical inner edge to do their business.

    #643523
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    Alright, I think you all have convinced me to go with the LT setup… sounds like if I am gonna spend the money to get the sparks the extra $50 is worth it.

    I’ll think about the K-clips too, not sure I will be buying those right away though.

    #643524
    Killclimbz
    1165 Posts

    You definitely don’t want K-Clips if you have a Mojo. No doubt. For a Venture, they are a nice addition.

    I did the LT Pin and K Clips upgrade last season. Both had a nice impact on performance for me. Though if I had to choose between the two, I would also go with the LT Pin. Those just made skinning easier and less work. Something you do a lot more of out there.

    #643525
    shredder13
    8 Posts

    Free shipping on the Sparks Blaze with LT Pins at Pitcrew http://www.pitcrewskateboards.com/shop/p-4850-spark-rd-blaze-lt-splitboard-binding-2012-black.aspx

    Shameless Plug… I run the shop!

    #643526
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    @shredder13 wrote:

    Free shipping on the Sparks Blaze with LT Pins at Pitcrew

    No Burners?

    #643527
    KGN
    215 Posts

    I picked up some Burners today, didn’t get the pins, yet anyways. Figured I spent enough for a day, I can only stomach so much at once.

    Highbacks feel pretty stiff, but to me felt pretty similar to the Voiles in terms of stiffness. Stiffer than my Burton Missions, but not by loads or anything. All in all looks really tight.

    I think I could be happy with either model for sure. I was thinking that an overall stiffer binding might tour and split ski a little better. But really I don’t know much so well see

    Its snowing in the Duffey these days..up high but its coming. 😮

    #643528
    HikeforTurns
    1114 Posts
    #643529
    phareyouwell
    45 Posts

    @HikeforTurns wrote:

    Blaze LT shipped for $305

    http://www.bentgate.com/spark-blaze-lt-binding.html

    Burner shipped for $287 (not LT)

    http://www.bentgate.com/spark-burner-binding.html

    That is a pretty sweet deal, but since I want the Burner LTs didn’t do me much good.

    After not being able to find the size I needed online anywhere and there not being a dealer in my area I got in touch with the folks at Pioneers board shop who were able to ship me a set of large Burner LTs which should be arriving this week…stoked!

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