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  • #566505
    joyclicker
    2 Posts

    B.C. Rider…the site looks good. Hope I can join in the fun some day and shuck the slowshoes…

    Anyway..Looking for a board to split, and I understand that wood-core boards that don’t have an edge over the nose and tail are the best. If this is the case, do you know of any specific models that I should be on the look out for?

    thx…

    #580588
    bdub
    40 Posts

    i’m kind of in the same spot. am considering cutting my 170 K2 FatBob. Anyone know if this is a worthwhile operation? or should I just buy new. I love the ride of my FatBob, any opinions on which splitboards have a similar feel?

    #580589
    mtnrider
    740 Posts

    Hey guys,

    Way to start off a great discussion here. I would tend to stick away from any board with a cap construction if you’re going to be making your own. A side wall construction board would be a much more durable choice to start off with. I think you’d run into problems with the cap board top sheet peeling apart on you if you ding it possibly on the inside edge. Then water would get in and well, that would be a bummer.

    I’m not sure if you could find a manufactured snowboard that rode exactly like your Fat Bob since K2 doens’t make splits but there are several other great boards out there. Check out the review section here @ splitboard.com. The guys are working hard to bring us the best info!

    #580590
    bdub
    40 Posts

    mtnrider
    any idea which boards have a similar feel (I hate noodly boards) to the Bob? I’ve been riding it since ’99 and am used to the feel. (although it is a bit big for a 150# lightweight like myself). I’ve heard that the Voile boards are a bit softer than the Burton any input on this? My S.O. has a Voile, but she won’t ever let me ride it!

    #580591
    bcrider
    4149 Posts

    Welcome joyclicker! (do you go by another screen name on other forums?)

    In regards to your question. I defer to more experienced disciples when it comes to splittin’ your own. I’ve never done it. Be patient as the site just launched so it may take a little while for them to find us. We’re also working on a “Split your Own”

    #580592
    bcrider
    4149 Posts

    Hi bdub”¦welcome!

    My first question is, what size are your feet? You mentioned you were 150#.

    The reason I ask is it determine if you really need the wide board or not (Fat Bob). Wide boards are great if you have large feet or like some extra float in powder but if your feet aren’t that big or you plan to use the board on firm snow, it will be hard to make edge to edge transitions.

    The other drawback to wide boards for splitboards is that when the board is in tour mode, the skis will also be wider. Splitboarding is already a little tricky due to the width of the skis, if the skis are too wide”¦traversing will be difficult.

    If you like a softer flexing board I would look at the Voile like you said. It would be a good idea to demo the Mrs’s before you buy. Good luck and don’t forget top report back to us.

    Ps. Cool pics on your site!

    #580593
    mtnrider
    740 Posts

    I agree with Bcrider on this…if you don’t already have an old board lieing around I’d look into a used split. I can’t offer an opinion on flex pattern of the Burton board since I haven’t tried it. I ride a Prior and have been super pleased. I impressed by the Burton as well. If you don’t like a noodley ride I’d stay away from the Voile, since it is more for powder only conditions.

    Don’t get thrown by the size of your board. I’m 5’7″, 160 and ride a 65 length split.

    If you use a carbide saw blade to do the cut on your board it will cut smooth and clean, along with going thru any inserts (burton insert pattern) and edges. They are a bit more expensive of a blade but you’ll want to do the job right the first time 😉 .

    #580594
    bdub
    40 Posts

    hey bcr,
    yeah, i have big feet, size 11ish. has kept me on a wide board for a few years now. i’m 5’10” 150# (lost 15 while in China). The Bob took a while to get used to, but now I love it. Also ride really wide tele skis (Jaks) which a few of my friends have mistaken for a splitboard . Fat is your friend! I’m in AK so am a complete powder hound, but hate noodly boards, kinda strange, but i am what i am. mtnrider, i am really interested in the Prior boards, so any insight would be greatly appreciated.

    #580595
    jared
    56 Posts

    Hi bdub, I’ve only been on a Fat Bob once, so not much help there. If you know Edskimo up here, he’s the first guy I saw on a split & he seemed to like the Eldos best for slicing up. If you have the funds go with a split, I got my Voile 195 ST four seasons ago & it’s still going strong (weekend warrior use). I home split a TB172 that rode great until I broke the plastic tail off on a rough landing(one season’s use). The Prior splits are getting real popular up here, especially for hardcore do-it-all riding, but the Voile designs seem to rule the dry pow. Never Summer has a wide board that would compare to your Fat Bob’s shape and design + the Blaho Bros do a custom factory split job! BCR may have a link to these guys somewhere on the site-or maybe they’ll buy an ad from him!
    If you’re strapped for cash, the split kit works very well & is easy to build. Don’t expect your home-split board to last many seasons if your ride hard. Good luck!

    #580596
    U-TAAH
    5 Posts

    My suggestion is to make your own rig if money is an issue. The conditions you will experience here are complimented by a wide noodley board. I have an extra split kit lying around if you are interested. $100 Here is my take after 7 years of riding a home made rig around the wasatch: Unless you are a really descriminating rider you will not be disappointed by the voile rig on your board. Yeah, it isn’t going to ski well on icy traverses but that issue can easily be avoided by route selection or simply riding the traverse in board mode and loosing a few feet. You will no longer have boot packing or snowshoeing buddies you will be too fast! I use an early 90’s Ride custom ”jig saw”swallow tail. Stalls like a surf board in the deep pow. The thing is built like a tank and has proven very durable, not light. I have been interested in the prior khyber but it is a bit spendy,EH! Good Luck, Ben

    #580597
    bcrider
    4149 Posts

    welcome jared and U-TAAH!

    8)

    #580598
    strider
    5 Posts

    If I split my 158 Burton Seven, will I have problems skinning? Will the independent boards bow excessively, thus reducing the skin contact surface? I need to know before I pull the trigger on the home split kit.

    #580599
    U-TAAH
    5 Posts

    Fire up that saw! It will skin fine. Be sure to read my post on skinning. Make sure ya put your skiis on the right feet- cut edges go to the outside. 😈

    #580600
    powderjunkie
    1669 Posts

    Hey bdub,
    Another thing to consider with a wide board is that crampons may not fit on the board. I’ve heard that split crampons will not fit on some of the wider never summer’s (and maybe some of the Prior boards?). Anyone with first hand experience on this. It may not be a deal breaker for you depending on where you ride and the conditions you may encounter. I’ve found that crampons help a lot.

    #580601
    bdub
    40 Posts

    powder junkie,
    i’m not a fan of crampons on my skis or board. if it’s icy i’ll just go climbing, i’ve become a bit of a powder hound these days. i doubt that i will split my old board. leaning towards buying something with the voile hardwear. just haven’t decided on which board, but really interested in the prior.

    #580602
    Bentley
    45 Posts

    Sup Guys,
    The Voile crampons work fine on the biggest, widest Never Summers(174 legacy) and I never leave home without them.

    #580603
    Matt
    77 Posts

    Yo Bentley! Love my NS T5 17? and I’m thinking about the split equivalent this season. Gonna be at the SplitFest with some demo boards?

    #580604
    Bentley
    45 Posts

    Sup Matt,
    Glad to hear you like your 172 T5.
    We will try to make it to the splitfest this year with some demos if all goes well.

    #580605
    Matt
    77 Posts

    Outstanding, Sir Bentley. Looking forward to meeting you and others. 😀

    #580606
    KK
    36 Posts

    … highly recommend splitting your own, especially if it is your first. *best* split I ever rode and still have is my Shift 166…possibly one of the single most “DIY splits” ever since Salty Peaks in SLC had like 200 purchased on closeout and ended up retailing them for $100/deck….I ran into one for sale @ Bar X in Silverton last Feb, even the tails had been squared off on this particular version. that board was built by Mervin Mfg…. Lib Tech and Gun rulers of the NW. easiest boards to cut into since no unnecessary full-wrap steel edges on tips and tails. super lightweight too…my 66 Shift w/ Voile hardware and Clicker HB bindings noticeable lighter than the Burton 65 [?] Voile 73 and Prior 68 during Mt Tallac Expression Session Feb ’04. funny thing is didn’t ride it that day it sat in the car.

    go with as light a deck as you can if not in hardpack/icy/gnar a lot. cap boards work great. you can brush on varnish or liquid urethane to exposed wood sidewalls and re-apply when necessary. works fine.

    cut your old favorite, if you liked it you’ll still like it and will be real comfortable on it. minimal dollar outlay to start.

    got to check on the new Libs to make sure the center of the core isn’t the rib-tech grooved out part, if so splittin one could be a trick… word up on splitting anything with honeycomb/ribs/hollow parts…..

    and speakin of Lib Tech check out their new serrated-edge boards, the Magne-Traction models…mind-blowing progression from the wickedly twisted brilliant minds @ Mervin…….

    KK

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