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  • #567546
    Tap
    126 Posts

    looking for recommendations on the best collapsible pole, something small that won’t extend over my head when strapped to the pack.

    thx

    #587000
    powderjunkie
    1669 Posts

    I found the BD expeditions poles to collapse to the shortest length.

    Tad bit heavier than Voile or Lifelink.

    Good pole, but can bend and break, can ice up, and don’t smack your skis with the aluminum pole because it may just sheer off. Use the handle to knock off snow or ice.

    I’ll sell you a new pair if you want ’em.

    #587001
    dfinn
    138 Posts

    I second the BD expedition. Pretty cheap if you can get them on pro-form 😉

    #587002
    Yoda
    264 Posts

    I’m using a pole from Black Diamonds new line of trekking poles for spring ’06. They have both 3-season and 4-season versions. The 4-season models (2 styles) have duel Flick-Locs. The 3-season versions have the push-button adjustment on the bottom section (prone to freezing). What’s cool about the 4-season version is they are lighter than the Expeditions, have an extended foam grip on the shaft, a straight hand-grip (good for climbing), and pack down to 25″ (64.5cm) and extend out to 55″ (140cm). They also have a replaceable carbide tip that will flex to resist braking – Expeditions do not have this feature. The one plus with the Expeditions is that they offer 2 size options… the smaller one packs down to 23″, but only extends to 120cm, I’m 6 feet tall and generally tour with my poles at 130+cm (especially in powder).
    For Splitboarding your using you poles for touring, rarely skiing… you don’t really benifit from the design of the Expeditions (ski specific grip, no grip extention, non-replaceable tips) for this application.

    #587003
    Scooby2
    620 Posts

    buy powderjunkie’s Black Diamond’s. The flick lock devices to extend and shorten them are so superior to all the others out there, I would only buy BD poles.

    #587004
    BaldySurfer
    5 Posts

    you can get a self arrest “whippet” for black diamond poles

    Good reason to go with bd

    #587005
    Yoda
    264 Posts

    @baldysurfer wrote:

    you can get a self arrest “whippet” for black diamond poles

    Good reason to go with bd

    No arguement about purchasing BD poles, however the whippet is no longer available as an accessory and is now sold as a complete 2 section pole. http://www.bdel.com/gear/fl_whippet.php
    It may be possible to buy it and attach the whippet section to a BD 3 section pole, but I’m not sure its the same lenth as the stock upper shaft.

    #587006
    Yoda
    264 Posts

    Dumb ass me… I should of read the review about this pole on the link I provided. BD made the upper shaft on this years Whippet shorter in length for both 2 and 3 section poles (18inches). However, it is sold as a complete 2 section pole.

    #587007
    jimfish
    16 Posts

    I’m sold on flick lock BD poles after a set of dakines that froze up last winter. they’re a bit heavier but it’s not that much. I swapped the basket on mine those, it had a half basket. also they’re super short when collapsed

    #587008
    bcrider
    4149 Posts

    Another vote for the Black Diamond Flick Lock poles. 🙂

    They are by far the best I’ve ever used. My poles get absolutely thrashed over a season or two and the BD poles are the only ones than can hang tough. It’s real easy to trim the shafts down too if you don’t need the stock length.

    They come with the ¾ baskets too which also work very well. On steep, icy climbs you spin the small part of the basket uphill and the little teeth and non-flexly design really grab the snow.

    Re the Whippet accessory. These things rock too. They are spendy (especially when you cant just buy the upper section) but they are totally worth it for extra safety. Having an extra lower section isn’t that bad either. Again, you can cut it down the right length.

    Whatever you do Tap…don’t settle for two section poles. That is a huge pet peeve of mine seeing boarders with these huge poles sticking off their pack like an antenna. 😯

    #587009
    safetypinguy
    15 Posts

    Well I guess I will be the lone dissenter in this in that I like my 2 pc (sorry bcr 😳 ) life link approach poles (not sure if they make that model anymore). Anyway, they are a little shorter than most poles, which is good since they are only used for hike up. They have a nice grippy patch on the lower section to make the adjusting easier with gloves on. The upper section is ovalized which keeps the expander wedge from slipping when things get icy.

    #587010
    fassnor
    36 Posts

    BD Expedition: I have found that it is best to take them apart and dry them really well after use. Otherwise, the poles tend to get oxided really fast and then tend to get stuck.
    Amazing how clean they shear off if you attempt to get rid of the sticky snow on your skins by slamming the split 🙁
    Otherwise, Flicklock rocks.

    #587011
    jimw
    1421 Posts

    @fassnor wrote:

    BD Expedition: I have found that it is best to take them apart and dry them really well after use. Otherwise, the poles tend to get oxided really fast and then tend to get stuck.

    I had the same thing happen after my first trip with the Expeditions. The next time I got them out one was all sticky and covered with weird spots like it had some kind of disease. Now I always take them completely apart after trips.

    @yoda wrote:

    Dumb ass me… I should of read the review about this pole on the link I provided. BD made the upper shaft on this years Whippet shorter in length for both 2 and 3 section poles (18inches). However, it is sold as a complete 2 section pole.

    I’m confused. On their site they only list the Whippet as a complete 2-section pole, but what you’re saying kinda makes it sound like they have a 3-section version available. Or are you just saying that the shaft in the 2-section pole is short enough that it works with 3-section poles as well? Lame that they don’t offer it as a separate accesory anymore. Though IIRC the price for the full pole is the same (or close) as it used to be for just the Whippet upper section.

    #587012
    ninjabirdman
    10 Posts

    i’m chime in another voice in suppord of BD’s flicklock system. I feel very strongly that systems where you have to spin the two pole sections to lock them in place are GARBAGE. you have to get a significant amount of torque on 2 smooth aluminum shaft sections, which can be very difficult with gloves on and water/snow thrown in the mix. these latches seem to fail VERY easily as well, and it’s terrible to be out in the middle of nowhere and all of a sudden have a pole that will not stay extended. the flick-locks from BD are very easy to operate and seem more durable to me, albeit a bit heavier than other systems.

    #587013
    melmo
    15 Posts

    Black Diamond with flick lock for sure. On a weeklong trip last year, the three people with twist lock poles all ended up with a broken pole that couldn’t be fixed with a philips or allen). The three people with BDs were fine.

    #587014
    karma surf
    191 Posts

    To clarify about the Whippets-

    What is offered changes seasonally. They mak a 2 part pole called the Whippet in winter. In spring they make a 3 part pole called the whippet trek. I have dual whippet treks, and when I bought them this fall they had 3 upper sections in stock. I took two of them. BD’s retail store, pro form store, and online store all operate from different inventories, so you have to be persistent.

    The Whippet Trek (the 3 part version) will not collapse as short as the expeditions unless you modify them.

    I originally got the trekking poles with the non-flick lock lower section, and that adjuster failed on both poles for me the first season. Also a difficult mechanism to operate with gloved hands. BD warranty immediately gave me new flick lock lower 2/3 for both poles. excellent service. I would only recommend the full flick lock version from my experience.

    #587015
    jimw
    1421 Posts

    I remember when I originally ordered a Whippet, I was also ordering Expedition poles at the same time. The online sales guy at BD contacted me to let me know that I actually needed to get the version of the Whippet made for the trekking poles so that it would work with the 3-section Expedition. Good customer service. This was just the upper shaft section. I know have one pole that is a few inches longer than the non-Whippet pole when fully collapsed, but no biggie.

    The flick lock has worked great. The only problem I ever had was occasionally the tension adjustment screw would get a little loose – easily adjusted with a pocket tool.

    #587016
    jared
    56 Posts

    My lekis didn’t even make it thru last summer. The twistys stopped gripping and a tube popped at the seam. Bought the bd’ s w/ the push buttons, cuz they expeds were gone & sure enuf like the man said those f###in’ buttons really suck on cold days. Flicklocks gotta be the only way

    #587017
    mergs
    100 Posts

    I am using the Leki 3 section poles. forget the model but it was mid range pole… $70-80 I think. they are adequate but i find the mechanism (the twist locks) pretty cumbersome in mittens and find myself really needing to torque them down to keep them from sliding (collapsing) under use. thus i’d say if you have the cash go for a better pole like the BD with flicks. ive seen them and they are pretty nice.

    budget being limited, i’ll keep the leki’s for now until i lose or break them then i’ll try for an upgrade. but i thought it would be helpful to hear what doesn’t work all that well too.

    #587018
    Yoda
    264 Posts

    @yoda wrote:

    I’m using a pole from Black Diamonds new line of trekking poles for spring ’06. They have both 3-season and 4-season versions. The 4-season models (2 styles) have duel Flick-Locs. The 3-season versions have the push-button adjustment on the bottom section (prone to freezing). What’s cool about the 4-season version is they are lighter than the Expeditions, have an extended foam grip on the shaft, a straight hand-grip (good for climbing), and pack down to 25″ (64.5cm) and extend out to 55″ (140cm). They also have a replaceable carbide tip that will flex to resist braking – Expeditions do not have this feature. The one plus with the Expeditions is that they offer 2 size options… the smaller one packs down to 23″, but only extends to 120cm, I’m 6 feet tall and generally tour with my poles at 130+cm (especially in powder).
    For Splitboarding your using you poles for touring, rarely skiing… you don’t really benifit from the design of the Expeditions (ski specific grip, no grip extention, non-replaceable tips) for this application.

    Here’s the BD pole I spoke about. REI has it now!
    http://www.rei.com/product/47999663.htm?vcat=REI_SSHP_CAMPING_TOC

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