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    affix snow
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    #602379
    Will
    377 Posts


    Interesting, very interesting. I’ll be checking this puppy out firsthand later this week at OR and SIA. It looks like in the first pic there’s a clamp between the white plastic blocks on each board half. I imagine it works in the same fashion as one of these:

    The other thing that’s interesting is this from Burton’s patent 6523851:

    1. A binding mechanism for a touring snowboard having at least first and second board sections to be arranged in either of a snowboard mode and an ascension mode, the binding mechanism comprising: a base configured and arranged to receive a snowboard boot; a first interface to mount to at least one of the first and second board sections; and a second interface mounted to the base and configured and arranged to engage with the first interface when the touring snowboard is in the snowboard mode to mount the base to the snowboard; wherein one of the first and second interfaces includes a clamp moveable between a closed configuration wherein the one of the first and second interfaces is adapted to engage with the other of the first and second interfaces and an open configuration wherein the one of the first and second interfaces is adapted to release the other of the first and second interfaces, wherein an amount of clearance exists between the first and second interfaces when the clamp is in the open configuration and wherein the amount of clearance is decreased when the clamp moves from the open configuration to the closed configuration.

    So would you consider this block to be part of the “binding mechanism”? Glad I’m not a lawyer!

    #602380
    shredgnar
    643 Posts

    looks like it’s already broken in the upper pic. From the looks of things it’s not really an improvement. How do the bindings attach to the board?

    #602381
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Thanks for the link affix and thanks to steve from teton AT for taking the pics. Too bad he didn’t have the interest to take some pics of the actual interface like he did all the silly dynafit stuff that he’s in to. 😆

    Apologies to the splitters that I’m not in a position to cover this product correctly and that our site isn’t important enough for Atomic to officially notify regarding this new product.

    Enough of my whining…..

    The design looks interesting and props to Atomic for pushing the innovation and taking a dive into the sport. :thatrocks:

    I’ve imagined a similar clamp design so its kinda cool to see this. Looks like it has the potential to be way more active than just split hooks. Doesn’t look too clunky or heavy but in the picture below the plastic look like it might have a broken piece out of it.

    Does anyone else see that irregularity in the plastic or is it just me?

    Sure wish we could see the binding and interface.

    Re the Voile and Burton patents, based on some of the comments in the other Atomic thread, it almost appears that Atomic is taking the approach to ignore the existing patents and gambling that the patent owners will not legally protect their patents. Of course that is just speculation and not anything official.

    #602382
    split.therapy
    455 Posts

    @bcrider wrote:

    Thanks for the link affix and thanks to steve from teton AT for taking the pics. Too bad he didn’t have the interest to take some pics of the actual interface like he did all the silly dynafit stuff that he’s in to. 😆 [/b]

    I’ve worked for Romeo for four years. He is as anti-snowboard as they come. Working with him is an all day festival of “knuckledragger”, “slow boarder”, “snow gorilla”. I would have to say that the fact that he even acknowledged the existence of a splitboard at the show is a huge step for him. He’s really come a long way. “Light is right dude.” 😀

    #602383
    huFfer
    51 Posts

    @bcrider wrote:

    Doesn’t look too clunky or heavy but in the picture below the plastic look like it might have a broken piece out of it.

    Does anyone else see that irregularity in the plastic or is it just me?

    Yup, looks broken to me.

    #602384
    karma surf
    191 Posts

    The ‘clamping mechanism” turns into the climbing wires, the board skins reverse, the crampons are used as a tool to disassemble the “clamping mechanism”. Definitely different.

    #602385
    Jogi
    158 Posts

    I agree! This piece of plastic definitely looks broken.

    #602386
    Unruly Baker
    333 Posts

    @karma surf wrote:

    ………Definitely different.

    But is different good? I plan on taking a good look at this Friday at OR.

    “The enemy of good is better”

    UB

    #602387
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    A year and a half of development and at its debut it features a broken part……. 🙄

    Now do you all see why I was worried a little bit.

    #602388
    brg
    141 Posts

    Karma, did you say the board skins in reverse, meaning the tails are the tips. I don’t like to mock it until I try it, but sounds kinda wack.

    #602389
    karma surf
    191 Posts

    @brg wrote:

    Karma, did you say the board skins in reverse, meaning the tails are the tips. I don’t like to mock it until I try it, but sounds kinda wack.

    Si

    #602390
    Killclimbz
    1165 Posts

    Meh, I would lighten up on them a bit. If that is the board they used for a year and a half, then a chipped piece of plastic may not be such a big deal. I am intrigued by this as it does seem they are not using Voile style hardware for this. I still think the Voile system is hard to beat. It’s elegant in it’s simplicity, but maybe Atomic has something here.

    #602391
    bcd
    232 Posts

    @bcrider wrote:

    Apologies to the splitters that I’m not in a position to cover this product correctly and that our site isn’t important enough for Atomic to officially notify regarding this new product.

    Well, they only get one chance to make a first impression. Right?
    So they just took a different approach at this by allowing pictures of their broken product to surface, thus creating the ever-powerful “internet buzz”.

    First impression internet buzz says: “this product is made of cheap, breakable plastic”.

    I wonder if that kind of publicity will work in their favor. Only time will tell.

    #602392
    Unruly Baker
    333 Posts

    I’m no new fangled splitboard-ologist or anything, but my guess is that area is chipped/broken due to wedging a pole tip in there to pop open the latch rather than using the crampon or whatever to pop it from the other side. That’s my guess anyway. May not be a structural problem or anything, just something they learned by using it.

    UB

    #602393
    mtnrider
    740 Posts

    yeah, I’m sure they did a structural analysis… 😆

    #602394
    stoudema
    551 Posts

    I saw the pictures for this in the atomic catalog at a local shop yesterday here in Eugene, OR and they were considering buying a few. The price tag was $899, but I don’t know if that is shop cost or retail. After I told him about some of the discussion on this site, the tech said he may wait a little bit before buying a few to see how the kinks work out.

    Not much new other than what’s already been said – tails are the tips when skinning, new interface design, etc. I agree with bcrider that it would’ve been nice if they had seeked out the input of users on this forum.

    #602395
    KnuckleDragger
    41 Posts

    tails are the tips when skinning…

    It looks like the tail of the board has a slight swallow tail – sort of in the shape of two ski tips next to one another. If that is the case, it would seem they are trying to make this board work with standard straight bail skins.

    #602396
    bcrider
    4150 Posts

    Lou has some more pics up.
    http://www.wildsnow.com/?p=1019

    #602397
    kjkrow
    353 Posts

    Judging by Lou’s pics, it looks like it will/might only be compatible with Atomic bindings. At least at a quick glance, they seem similar to Will’s new bindings in terms of height.

    Also, no broken plastic apparent in his pics versus Steve Romeo’s.

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