do you have any possibility to get the non-carbon version? the carbon version feels remarkable stiffer in terms of lateral flex, and even the plastic of the non-carbon version is more on the stiffer side..
The Backlands, Travers and old Aliens are perfect for some sort of aftermarket retrofit ride mode bar. Something along the lines of the lock bar that gignoux (excuse the spelling) uses. I’d love to see an adjustable elastomere system that allows a solution to the hard stop high back feel and forward lean in one. I’ve got the idea now I just need my startrek actualization machine!
very interesting, thanks for sharing. I did not have any problems with my mods so far (about 30 days this season, even with temps down to -15/-20°C and deep powder in Japan), but maybe forces are distributed another way (not so much torsion force).
All the information is basically displayed in the two pictures: no additional tongue, I removed the upper buckle and placed the velco above the ankle. It can be fixed by replacing the upper screw of the walk/ride mechanism by a longer screw. Additionally, I have cut away about 1 cm of the cuff at the heelside because it caused some pressure pain at my calves. That’s it so far, but it rides a bit different compared to my Scott Orbit so I have to learn once again how to ride a AT boot, at least in some points.
Any further questions?
Its been two seasons since you originally wrote this. Are you still riding these boots? If so, whats your opinion on the mods you made? Good and bad.
Wondering if anyone has thought about simply cutting off the hook on the Atomics to allow free forward movement and the rely on a modified tongue to tweak forward flexibility ?
I haven’t seen anyone do that one yet. Would the spring on the latch always bring it onto the pin? Would it line up correctly each time as it came back on the heel? I imagine you would want to leave an open U shape so that the pin lined up into the latch each time.
I thought to put a wide rubber stopper on the end that covers across the two plastic sections so no need to worry about pin alignment. The spring is enough to bring it back and it already has a stopper to prevent the lever from coming back too far against the boot. Could always add a stronger spring if needed.
Figuring that the forces a skier might put on this section of the boot, say if they landed on their tail must be more than could be reached by a snowboarder. Don’t think snapping off the plastic pin section is a problem..
Just got the boots in the post this morning and the forward flex, unlocked with the soft tongue in is perfect. Cool thing about this is that you could adjust the forward flex with a harder tongue.
All the information is basically displayed in the two pictures: no additional tongue, I removed the upper buckle and placed the velco above the ankle. It can be fixed by replacing the upper screw of the walk/ride mechanism by a longer screw. Additionally, I have cut away about 1 cm of the cuff at the heelside because it caused some pressure pain at my calves. That’s it so far, but it rides a bit different compared to my Scott Orbit so I have to learn once again how to ride a AT boot, at least in some points.
Any further questions?
Its been two seasons since you originally wrote this. Are you still riding these boots? If so, whats your opinion on the mods you made? Good and bad.
Hey Stephen,
I was still riding these boots around 30 days last season. I was quite happy with them (maybe a bit too less shock absorbing, but only noticable in hard snow) but they got kind of too hot and the shell changed a bit its shape while drying them in the camper at the heater… def my fault as the shell is punchable, but from now on the boots caused a strange pressure on my ankle. Therefore I modded them further the past month. I only did some carped testing (still climbing season 😉 ) and they feel way better now (ankle and flex). The mods are a mixture of the Phantom TLT6 Mods and my old mods. Feels like cutting around 2 cm of the blue shell at the ankle to make the blue shell lower in general and cutting the vertical slits were quite effective in terms of forward flex. But they still need to be tested, on snow it feels different than on the carped (whaat, really?)
Wondering if anyone has thought about simply cutting off the hook on the Atomics to allow free forward movement and the rely on a modified tongue to tweak forward flexibility ?
Sometime i forgot the hook on the desent, my pants hold the hook up. No need to cut it
Is there a difference between the 2017 light blue and orange non-carbon Backlands vs the dark blue 2018-2019? I’m finding some good deals on the older model, but want to make sure there isn’t a reason I should avoid it. It seems like that’s what most in this thread have anyway…
Is there a difference between the 2017 light blue and orange non-carbon Backlands vs the dark blue 2018-2019? I’m finding some good deals on the older model, but want to make sure there isn’t a reason I should avoid it. It seems like that’s what most in this thread have anyway…
To answer my own question, I’ve got both the new and old version of the backland in front of me now. There are definitely differences. Here’s what I’ve found so far:
-liner is much nicer on the new version. My heel hold is night and day better in the new liner. -the flap of weather proof material attaches to the liner with a strong magnet instead of Velcro on the new version. This seems like a much better mechanism -overall fit and finish on the new boot is way better than the old. Small imperfections in the plastic molding are numerous on the old boots. Not sure if this matters but makes me wonder about overall quality of the boot.
Turns out you can just order new locking leavers online, ended up getting a pair for free so had nothing to lose in trying this. Forward’s flex is awesome while having the normal stop of a highback. Still have to try it on snow, soon, but it looks pretty good. It is also possible to get stiffer tounges online if the soft ones have too much forward flex.
The cut off hits up against the metal pin and with a small circular file it won’t pop out. The spring is strong enough to keep It in position.