Forums Splitboard Talk Forum Anyone developing hardboot heel lock??
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  • #800810
    KGN
    215 Posts

    As a convert to the hardboot side, and seeing that softboot setups have a heel lockdown, I was wondering if anyone such as phantom are working on a simple heel lock? I have heard of using a low tech dynafit heel but something smaller would be ideal. Even just a light hold allowing skating and easier sidestepping. I can think of many exits where this would be beneficial, where there are long flats followed by very short downhills and bumps that skiers can quickly sidestep up.(and yes I know why don’t you just ski) Interested to hear any ideas. Not interested in using the voile strap. I was thinking something that is integrated with the risers and lays flat, or perhaps a heel riser that is similar to a bail and could be rotated for dual use?

    I definitely don’t want to mount a full dynafit setup and wouldn’t, hoping something that keeps simplicity in mind gets developed.

    For me this season with hard boots has improved my touring and riding so much, as well as transition speed and less fiddling,that I feel the only thing lacking is this. There are many runs I do that end up on a lake, and I always have to an extra transition to put skins on because of the sidestepping after the flats.

    #801436
    summersgone
    815 Posts

    As far as I know Phantom is not developing anything besides the voile strap method. My opinion is that I don’t feel I ever even needed the voile strap to split ski. I see no need for a lock down. The only time would be if I had a failure and simply needed to ski something gnarly, but I can survive. You could always use the dynafit heel piece mounted if you really wanted. The low tech is tiny. But I think its a bit useless.

    #801583
    SkateBananas
    178 Posts

    For the most part I like to have my heel free unless I know I’m going to be going FAST (icy luge track to the car with cold beer waiting). I dont like to have my heel locked for long flats like you mentioned, having the heel free allows a longer more comfortable slide and glide. When I do know that I will be skiing fast ill take the time to do the Voile strap method and it works great. I have even used this to ski Silverton mountain when they were closed and I forgot my bindings in the car. I had so much fun and the skiing was great I did 3 laps.

    #801593
    KGN
    215 Posts

    Thanks for the replies. Heel lock wouldn’t be as much for the flats as it would be side hill stepping and icy decents back to the car where a combo of ups and downs exist. Just thinking.. If somebody made something clean and easy it would be nicer than a voile strap, quicker. But maybe I will try the strap one day on a long skin ski out and see how I feel about it.

    #831478
    Trygve
    24 Posts

    Hi, any updates here? I really agree that a quick «snap-on» mechanism for locking the heel would be great for skating out vallyes, over lakes etc. The Voile strap seems too time consuming. No time for that when you’re mountaineering with your Dynafit Skimo friends.

    #841967
    hyzerbomber
    45 Posts

    Have you thought about putting the Dyna Heel on the board? Gives you dual risers and a quick access to locked heel.
    I worked with Donek boards and had inserts manufactured into my split so I can use the standard mounted riser bails (phantom) or bolt on the Dyna heel for long pull-ins or side step yo-yoing. For longer trips I will pack the heels incase the are needed. Most of the time I just ride the Phantom Rocket Raisers since they are so light! Nice to have for those one-off trips that you need that extra config. 08-09 season I had a local shop install a full Dynafit, toe and heel on a Prior BC and rode that set up for about a decade before taking the plunge and dropping inserts into my current board. Cheers to the chase!

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    (( Donek Hazelwood ))
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    #843138
    Fletcher
    1 Posts

    I made a heel lock using the short heel riser of the voile dual height risers to engage the heel welt of my hardboots. Attached is a guide to what I did. I’ve only been able to test it on grass so far but I’m optimistic it’ll work reasonably well.
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/17uhlitxQ4ZXmAh6N7o7mO2w8RVo7hRfIX-aJRWurAOE/edit?usp=drivesdk

    #843220
    velca
    5 Posts

    I have the voile riser / heel lock setup for 2 seasons now and it never failed. I found it to be important to be really precise on the position when mounting. It looks a bit sketchy but holds the heel quite firm actually. I wouldn’t trust it for anything where a failure could be dramatic but then again I hardly ever move in such conditions and if I do, I’m not split skiing 🙂

    #845078
    marran
    20 Posts

    I Just bolted a lightweight ATK heel piece on with ski skrews, works great if you have wide stance and/or short feet since space behind the boot is a premium, especially with phantom bindings.
    Puck bindings will buy you a few extra cm’s.

    ATK is sold in the US as Black Diamond I think, but you can also get for example Dynafit superlite 2.0 or Plum. The important thing is really to get a small heel-piece that does not take up half the board like the heavier versions tend to do. And weight-wise, a light race-style heel piece will be as light or lighter than your usual climbing wires.

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