Cheers, thanks for the answers! -T

Hi there,
Need an help regarding sizing of the milligram. Currently, my split is a 159 Rossi XV and really like its stiffness and performance. But it is time to change, and as I recently switched to hardboots (backlands+Dyno DH) I would like to go for a light split too.

I am 176 x 73 kg. The 158 sounds short for what I like in the backcountry, as I really wanted to change my Rossi 159 for a Rossi 163. So I’m thinking about the mg 163 but am not sure.

Maybe Buell you can help me, as you tried both sizes. Any other guys with similar height and weight riding a milligram 163?

Cheers

I have the 163cm and it works great for all conditions. I’m 170lbs and 5’10. Floats nicely in the pow, and still is nimble enough for tight jump turns on steep firm slopes on corn days…..

@method – Thanks for your review. Do you or anyone else have any reflections on how the 158 rides in deeper snow? I am similar size (5’10 and 70kg) so Amplid’s specs suggest the 158 should be perfect but my inclination has always been to ride a longer board than this but I’m using US8 boot (good match to the 158 waist) and also looking for climbing efficiency. How did you find the 158 in deep Japanese conditions – could you ride it with your centred?

@Method – Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. I also had problems posting.

My preference would be a longer and narrower board but that doesn’t seem to be the way Amplid have approached the design, it looks like they have made the boards slightly wider in recent years. Am I right in thinking that the geometry of the Milligram (camber profile/nose shape/mid-wide, etc) allows you to take a shorter board and still have good float? Does it ride like a longer board?

Separately, has anyone ridden the 158 Milligram and the 157 Millisurf and got any comparison?

Re: trip reports, hope to write up a Norway trip which is planned for the spring.

Hi Trygve,
I have never done an in hand side by side comparison of Splitboard halves and skis and I’m pretty clueless in general about skis, so I’m just spewing out some thoughts here. I think they stay afloat better while skinning because of a) lenght and b) stiffness that has to be kept through the length of the ski( the average touring skis being about 20cm longer than the average splitboard for a given height), in other words, I don’t think skis have that extreme bend that you see on some splitboards when you step on them into a soft surface.

With your weight I would recommend the longer one for sure. I don’t think the increased weight of 5cm more board makes your uphill efficiency that much worse compared to what you gain from increased float and stiffness.

Howdy again, I just got the 19/20 Milligram 163 and since Im a good mix of engineer and weight weenie I was quick to put it on the weight scale. Im surprised it actually weighs in at 3100 grams (3.1kg) without sticker or wrapping, while Amplids homepage states 2.8-2.9kg. They probably specify for without the clips, but they dont add up to 100g pr “ski”, do they?

Anyone else here who has weighed their board without binding interface?

Cheers,
Trygve Veslum

-ahhh, taking a break from the world here.
I think with gear that does not involve wood, it’s just marketing. Or the first months of production goes out and the failure rate is higher than anticipated so material thicknesses are increased.

I have had mostly paulownia snowboard cores that are as much as 300 grams different in a 164cm within the same shipment of wood but different trees (from S. Carolina). Poplar (Yellow) and balsa vary lot also. I think with a highly automated process and pressing at high psi, there is probably very little variation in the amount of resin in a manufactured board. I think weight growth in a board is probably due in part to wood, and in part probably due to adding some more fiber to reduce failures and warranty rates in light gear. Hopefully the extra grams means you wont crack the board in a dip in touring mode.

Splitboard manufacturers have been slow to recognize that like a ski, a split needs a thicker core than 7 or 8mm for touring which is basically skiing with all weight on one foot in terrain dips, or just more composite reinforcement on the deck side in the center. Skis have like 10-13mm thick cores and usually a big patch of fiberglass and commonly denser wood under the binding area. To compensate for the stiffness this results in, bc boards just need to lose the camber in my opinion.

Does anyone know if the millisurf and milligram are still being manufactured at the Mothership? I saw somewhere that manufacturing moved to Taiwan. Is anyone in the know? Thanks!