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That's it? A buddy who has ridden a 161 prototype said it's OVER a pound lighter than the original solution. Might not be worth the rumored very expensive price tag over the normal version. If it's a full pound lighter then yes.

A pound is 453 grams... Looks like the carbon Jones is a little less than 1/2 lighter than the regular version at 200 grams less. Prior claims average weight savings of 1 lb 5 ozs for full carbon Priors.
I guess we will find out the real details in the summer...
BG, do you know what the premium is for carbon Solutions?

I don't. My buddy wasn't sure either but he heard some pretty big numbers thrown around. The board is supposed to ride insane. I ran into a ripper at Squaw last year on the lift who was riding Ryland Bell's flagship carbon proto. This guy was an experienced pro caliber rider who did well in the Rahlves Banzai comps and he said it was the sickest board he's ever been on. Watching him ride it I didn't doubt him. Now we just need a hybrid of a Solution/Furberg in carbon!!! Need to ride a furberg damnit

Sounds right, no broken flyrods from me anyways I had the impression that carbon can be brittle, hence my fear of the big bend in the skis.

I suppose I was wondering why Venture feels they are not durable enough to make yet, while other companies seem fine with them. I am not too hard on my gear anyways, as I am a lightweight. Seems my Prior has been holding up just fine, and I have hit some massive sharks under the snow with little base damage. I don't have any real reservations about using their carbon version.

The solution 161 weight was measured on an accurate eletronic system early in the season (zerog shop in Chamonix) as I couldn't find anything in the specs sheet.
The prior weights are what is actually displayed on their websites (Actual weight is in grams...)

This year my boots & bindings are sparks and it changed my life, this is not ultra light but light enough and certainly stiff enough for me to finally use my split in "special conditons" (like 45-55 degrees couloirs with cliffs underneath...) - I never had this level of confidence in my splits before (voilé ST 178 and Mojo RX).

About the carbon solution, if it's 1-2 pounds lighter (±500-1000grams) and if ride is improved, I guess I'd give a shot but I'm afraid it'll only be partial carbon to improve stiffness (the same reason carbon is beeing added to the flagship) and not to save weight...

Next years Carbon solution is set to sell for $1,100, Flagship carbon $799... Looks pretty sick!

north face ABS vest? sounds interesting.

ah, those pow sticks & splitboards look delicious!

Well the voile looks interesting... no topo graphic at least? (mojo rx or?)

There is a big difference between just a carbon topsheet, and full carbon layup. I still think it's ridiculous to charge a few hundred dollars more for full carbon construction. I recentlyt bought a few rolls of the stuff, and really it's not that much more expensive than fibreglass if you calculate it per board. We're talking about $25 more material cost, and the contruction is pretty much the same for carbon.

honestly, I would like to know your carbon supplier if you think you can purchase enough to do a full board layup for only $25 more than glass!
My experience with purchasing CF is that it is quite a bit more expensive than that... what type are you purchasing? Uni, biax woven fabric, or? And is it prepreg or dry? Prior has not revealed what they are using, but I must assume that they use multiple layers of uni, in a tri or quad axial layup-there is no way they could achieve a pound of weight savings if they were using a woven material.
In any case, I feel the $200 up charge at Prior is totally reasonable for over a pound of weight saved and improved performance. Remember, the additional cost must cover: the costs of the R & D of figuring out the exact layup necessary to achieve the desired feel (means lots of prototype building) and the additional costs of working with CF and stocking it. If material costs alone were what controlled the price of anything, most things we purchase would be much cheaper.
BTW, most manufacturers of retail goods use a 5x to 10 x multiplier for material costs to retail price calcs. So if the the additional costs of CF per board was $50 (closer to reality in my experience than your $25), 5*50=$250 upcharge...

Anyone hear if Jones will be coming out with a 160 cm Hoovercraft split next year?

Really wish Salomon would create and sell a Sick Stick Split

+ 1!

I love my Sick Stick. A "Sick Split Stick" would be awesome!