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haha, for me it's both - La P'gucci micro puff vest and then if I am beyond resort pistes (90% of my riding!) in the bottom of my pack you will find (also from la p'gucci milan catwalk) the ultralight down garbage bag, er I mean shirt, as an emergency layer - packs down to a beer can size and weighs about as much as an empty one.

Same for me too. Really love it!

If it's going to be an overnight trip I bring my Mountain Hardware Sub Zero Parka. That one's real toasty.

Thought I'd open this thread back up with some info on dry down.


Sierra designs dry down jackets are supposed to be released in August at about 250 beans. BrooksRange will also be releasing a similar product.
http://www.gizmag.com/warm-water-resistant-down-jackets/21124/

Does anybody have any experience with Wild Things belay jacket? If so how well does it pack? Thanks.

I keep a hooded synthetic puffy in my pack all the time because conditions can go sideways in a hurry in the PNW and I don't need the insulation at -20, I need it at the freezing point. I usually have a Patagonia down jacket in the car too but I'd only swap that into my pack if I were touring during a very strong high pressure system and was sure that things would stay dry.