Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:02 am
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:17 pm Posts: 199
Add JimmyC to the HB list.
I would like to keep using my Dynafit toe pieces in tour mode--and am currently considering direct mounting Plum Guide toe and heel pieces. I would be quite willing to pay for a solid binding that lowered my boot (27.5) position on the board by 0.5 inches or so. I really like the feel (i..e lateral flex) of my Bomber Sidewinders---but I do wish that I could could drop the boot height.
Triad plates will be much better/lighter than the voile plates. I have started up a project with OCD. His will include highbacks and bring mountaineering boot riding as an option for those who are interested in going that route.
Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:34 pm
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:34 pm Posts: 252 Location: kelowna bc canada
wasatch surf wrote:
firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case. I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount? This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates. I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project. What you we be willing to pay? Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300. Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5 What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest. Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted? Cheers
the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.
Wow, don't know how i missed this thread. The binding I made last year works perfect but isn't cost effective to produce. I've pretty much rested up from this falls board building episode so i'll put some thought into it and see what i can come up with. Right now i've got some ideas but they would be custom. and would have to develop bending dies for the bales as well as do some destructive testing before selling to anybody.
Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:38 pm
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:36 pm Posts: 378 Location: Lethbridge, AB
vapor wrote:
wasatch surf wrote:
firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case. I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount? This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates. I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project. What you we be willing to pay? Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300. Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5 What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest. Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted? Cheers
the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.
Wow, don't know how i missed this thread. The binding I made last year works perfect but isn't cost effective to produce. I've pretty much rested up from this falls board building episode so i'll put some thought into it and see what i can come up with. Right now i've got some ideas but they would be custom. and would have to develop bending dies for the bales as well as do some destructive testing before selling to anybody.
Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:06 pm
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:34 pm Posts: 252 Location: kelowna bc canada
treepilot wrote:
vapor wrote:
wasatch surf wrote:
firstlight wrote:
Alright then
I’m on the case. I assume you guys still want to use the Voile style puck for the binding mount? This leaves you the option to back to Voile plates. I started to make a base but gave up with the design but I think I might re-visit the project. What you we be willing to pay? Same prices as the light rail, Spark around the $300. Boot sizes? I’m using 27.5 What are your sizes, looking for the smallest to largest. Not sure if Dynafit compatibility in ride mode is wanted? Cheers
the price is tricky as my justification for forking over $600 plus on hardboots was the cheap binders. My idea is just a little wider slider plate with a series of holes on each side of the plate. The bails could then be popped in or out of the holes to adjust for size. this would accomplish a light binder that is still cheap to produce. really a hardboot binding would use less than 1/3 of the material in a strap binding so I would have a hard time paying over $100. which for a limited run of bindings could be a hard mark to hit.
Wow, don't know how i missed this thread. The binding I made last year works perfect but isn't cost effective to produce. I've pretty much rested up from this falls board building episode so i'll put some thought into it and see what i can come up with. Right now i've got some ideas but they would be custom. and would have to develop bending dies for the bales as well as do some destructive testing before selling to anybody.
p06781 snowman1 Locster Unruly Baker? my wife (who does not post here)
Splitchef reprezenting in the San Juan's!
MangyMoose + his wife a regular partner who doesn't post here
and after a demo for Matt a.d., I think him and mrash will be jumping ship too.
definitely time for a custom hard boot plate. Ditch the pucks, or use bails wide enough to go on the outside of the pucks, rather than on top.
Plus:
Schralptowner braal
Note: anyone who is interested in a new school, plate binding interface set up, please send some encouragement to Will at Spark R n D. A plate binding version of the new Edison interface could be developed without too much additional work.
Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:56 pm
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:36 pm Posts: 378 Location: Lethbridge, AB
barrows wrote:
Note: anyone who is interested in a new school, plate binding interface set up, please send some encouragement to Will at Spark R n D. A plate binding version of the new Edison interface could be developed without too much additional work.
I've been encouraging him to do a collab with Fin at Bomber for quite some time...
Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:01 pm
Joined: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:51 am Posts: 446 Location: Surfing or Splitboarding Downunder
barrows / treepilot I have asked Will before about this, would help reduce the work for us backyard designers. Sparks base plate is 90% on the way to a HB setup for either pucks or Edison systems. Ive tried to modify a Fuse plate, 50% of the way there.
p06781 snowman1 Locster Unruly Baker? my wife (who does not post here)
Splitchef reprezenting in the San Juan's!
MangyMoose + his wife a regular partner who doesn't post here
and after a demo for Matt a.d., I think him and mrash will be jumping ship too.
definitely time for a custom hard boot plate. Ditch the pucks, or use bails wide enough to go on the outside of the pucks, rather than on top.
Plus:
Schralptowner ABP
Note: anyone who is interested in a new school, plate binding interface set up, please send some encouragement to Will at Spark R n D. A plate binding version of the new Edison interface could be developed without too much additional work.
Hehe, superquote.
Mighty Bighorn, Uriedog & Libtechsplit are all fruitbooters & I'm about 99% ready to convert. Damn cash discrepancy.
Post subject: Re: No pucks, locking splitboard plate binding
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:26 pm
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:20 pm Posts: 172
Looking forward to see your work vapor. Spark has gotta be at least considering this. I really don't like the idea of being high off the board but bails right on a clean plate and i just might convert.
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