Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:02 am Posts: 15 Location: Port Coquitlam, BC
I'm pretty new to split'n and have a few questions regarding the do's and dont's of skin storage and use. I apologize in advance if this has been covered elsewhere.
When I'm not using the skins, is it right that I have them in their bag, folded back over themselves with the mesh in between? And when I'm out earning my turns, I do the exact same thing when it's time for the skins go back into the pack. Should I be doing something else?
This method seams to be working fine though I have found sometimes that one or both of the skins want to come loose at tail-end. Is this because of the way I'm treating/using the them?
Also, is there anything about skin maintenance I should know about? Do you guys/gals take any 'skin spares' when your out touring?
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Joined: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:22 pm Posts: 503 Location: Durango, CO
When you put it in your jacket (that is obviously on you), your heat melts the snow, and re-energizes the glue. First half the skins and then put them in for 5-10 minutes should work.
2. Its pretty unnoticeable how wet you will get. Get them off first.
But first things first, try to keep snow off the glue and your day will be mucho better.
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:02 am Posts: 15 Location: Port Coquitlam, BC
Thanks summersgone, that has cleared up some of my skin issues......
Another stupid question coming at you all. I've done a little research since this post and it seems that most riders and skiers don't use any mesh backing or the likes when stowing their skins before descending. The majority just prefer slap glue to glue. Input anyone?
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Joined: Mon May 18, 2009 5:44 pm Posts: 395 Location: san diego
bombsaway wrote:
I've done a little research since this post and it seems that most riders and skiers don't use any mesh backing or the likes when stowing their skins before descending. The majority just prefer slap glue to glue. Input anyone?
How old are your skins? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if they are relatively new.
You may may also want to try sticking one of your "skis" in the snow, looping your skin over it and using the edge as a scraper to remove excess snow and ice, pulling the skin back and forth against the rail between your right and left hands. As long as your glue is in pretty good shape and you can keep them clean, you may be able to avoid the jacket maneuver.
The skin savers(mesh) are more for long term storage than touring in my experience. I don't use them for either and have plenty of life left after three seasons.
_________________ "Climb the mountains and get their good tidings" -John Muir
Joined: Sat Aug 13, 2011 4:27 pm Posts: 435 Location: SE PDX
When my Voile skins were brand new, they were super hard to pull apart when stored together, glue to glue. It would seriously take over 5 minutes. After a trip or two I came up with the idea of having a buddy help me by holding one side and I'd pull on the other. Now what I do is put them on the ground/snow, and hold one down with one boot, while pulling up on the other. That pulls them apart pretty fast. I can feel that the glue is getting less sticky, but in certain temps they are still ridiculous sticky.
+10 for tail clips, that helps a lot.
On my last trip I tried a new method and just rolled them up, glue to hair. I was worried that the orange hair would come off on the glue but it doesn't seem to happen.
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:02 am Posts: 15 Location: Port Coquitlam, BC
@ sdmarkus, to answer your question my skins are about two years old, but only with about +/-7000ft of climbing on them. The only point that I noticed the skins coming free is at the tail end. They have never caused any problems while in action.
@ jefe009 and osubg1, thanks for the info especially the the link, it's good to have a visual and the extra bit of info! And guess its time to order some tail clips.
Has anyone had any type of skin failures while bc? If so, what happen and how did you work past it? Also, what type of temp variations can effect the performance of skins?
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Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:39 pm Posts: 56 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado
I dream of the day when I can pull my skins apart without so much effort. Rapes my gloves too. It's such a bitch. I have to step on it with the boot sometimes. I never abuse the backcountry.com return policy, but I'm sending in for a new pair of gloves after the seasons up. Friggin skin glue.
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