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 Post subject: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:15 am 
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Good or Garbage?

In collaboration with an Avalung possibly a good thing, unless of course the rope wraps around your neck or a tree.


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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:53 am 
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what's the difference between that one and the avalanche ball? is there any?
i have already heard of the avalanche ball but i personally don't know if would invest any money in that... i'm gonna get an airbag backpack in january anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:09 am 
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if you wanna use one, fine but some of the language/signage on the website bothered me.

"it saves enormous time for winter sports athletes with little experience using avalanche transceivers." almost inferring that instead of a beacon, just carry our ballon.

shows pics of it attached to a backpack...

but whatever... its fine if you want to use one. i'd rather use my chance to pull a cord in the middle of an avy to be pulling one on an ABS pack than on this. either that or a cord-activated transporter beam or something :bow:


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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:44 am 
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Between crossing myself, fumbling with the avalung, trying to pull my airbag cord and switching off my go-pro, i am definitely not going to have time to throw out party ballons.


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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:34 am 
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Funny shit dudes... :lol:

Seriously, as wonky as it seems I don't think it is meant to float a person or replace a beacon. It appears to be intended as a supplement to a beacon signal rather than a substitute. Seems like this would be a decent compliment to a beacon and avalung.

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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:21 pm 
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IMO This an upgraded version of an avalanche cord, which is no-longer used!

The drawbacks the the "Avy-cord" are:
1). Entanglement The cord wraps around your body, when you tumbled in an avalanche. Cord-entanglement hinders your ability to fight in an avalanche.

2) Cord entangles around avalanche debris and trees.
A)The snow pack set's up hard, thus trying to follow the cord to victim is probably near impossible.
B) What are the trauma effects of being tethered to a cord that wraps around a tree or Avalanche Debris?

Finally, where are the tests for this Avy-ball product by an independent Avalanche Safety Council?

Perhaps you could fill the ball with helium, There's some old Warren Miller footage of group skiing with helium balloons tied around their waist in the Alps :D

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While expensive the inflation Avalanche Airbags are gaining in credible evidence of helping keeping the victim near or on the surface in the avy-debris. see [url]http://www.backcountryaccess.com/2011/11/17/kitzbuhel-avalanche-the-ultimate-airbag-test/[url] and[/url]http://www.wildsnow.com/3736/airbag-overview/[/url]

Wonder if scuba inflation vest ("May-West) would work instead of a expensive Avalanche Airbags :D

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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
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Indeed those are all obvious fail points... Good call PowRider

On the other hand, despite the proven success of float packs I'd just as soon stay out of avy terrain as carry a heavier pack.

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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
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more people would die using this than it would save. I would much rather have someone digging me out from my beacon signal vs. trying to chisel out several feet of cord wound around frozen concrete. way too much wasted time with this.

i'm really not into any piece of avy gear besides the strandard 3(shovel, probe, beacon). air bags are cool I guess, but fuck em. they are heavy, expensive, the packs suck, and no one can tell me if the bags will hold up against rocks and trees or if they will puncture? they might work fine on big open slopes, but I generally don't find myself riding big open slopes on days when i'm actually worried about triggering an avalanche. :scratch:

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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:04 am 
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wasatch surf wrote:
more people would die using this than it would save. I would much rather have someone digging me out from my beacon signal vs. trying to chisel out several feet of cord wound around frozen concrete. way too much wasted time with this.


yep, that's true. maybe digging out the cord will take even longer than finding someone with a beacon...

wasatch surf wrote:
air bags are cool I guess, but fuck em. they are heavy, expensive, the packs suck, and no one can tell me if the bags will hold up against rocks and trees or if they will puncture? they might work fine on big open slopes, but I generally don't find myself riding big open slopes on days when i'm actually worried about triggering an avalanche. :scratch:


i'm not that worried about puncturing an airbag, but i have to agree that the packs are heavy and not as practical as other backpacks. still... i'll be getting one and i will keep on riding with as much precaution as i do now without airbag backpack... but with more back-ache ;)

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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:40 am 
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I don't think this thing is supposed to be used like an X marks the spot! That would be damn foolish. If it does float in an Avalanche then surely it would replace the last seen point and you would start a beacon search from the location of the "balloon"
If it was used in this manner surely it would shave the time of a beacon search by precious minutes.
As already stated in a combo with an Avalung could be an advantage.
Anyone who thinks this thing is a replacement for the mandatory three bits of kit in the BC should die in an Avy! You know keeping the genepool strong and that :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:30 am 
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The concept is the oldest one in the book. When I first started out in the backcountry, as my partners cursed their transceivers, they also reminisced about the old avalanche cords from "back in the day." Skiers would tie a brightly coloured cord to themselves that would drag behind them. It had distance gradations and arrows pointing toward the skier. I could just imagine using one of these in the glades though...

I came across another modern take on the avy cord: http://www.flash-avalanche.com/
I wonder if the company has sold many of these...


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 Post subject: Re: A new piece of Avy gear on the Market
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:05 am 
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norriegga wrote:
I came across another modern take on the avy cord: http://www.flash-avalanche.com/
I wonder if the company has sold many of these...


that reminds me of spiderman!

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