Thanks for coming in and addressing the issue. That goes a long ways around these parts. I think overall most riders around here use a 20-21" minimum stance width which works on the board. It's the fact that one can't move the setback an inch forward or backward that concerned me personally.
Jeremy, off topic, but what's your stance width riding a 161? I never thought of widening my stance according to board length and I ride 62's-66's. Hmmmm
My stance width varies from 21 inches to 22 inches depending on the size of the board. I also change up my angle's through the year depending on the conditions and to help change the direction of the load I put on my hips knees and back.
I highly recommend anyone riding a stance narrower then 21" (unless they are smaller then 5'7", or riding hard boots) to play with widening there stance a quarter to a half inch at a time. Narrow stances are the single most set up mistakes I see riders make...especially older riders. It really hampers your stability.
On a side note. In the past I have moved my binding forward and back on the board quite a bit depending on the snow. With the new shape of the Flagship/Solution I stay centered no matter what the conditions because I no longer have to move my bindings back on deep days because the nose floats so well.
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:37 pm Posts: 102 Location: Boulder, CO
Well Jeremy, i'm in the camp you just described so i'll give it a try before i break out the drill bit . I appreciate you jumping in with your thoughts.. Thanks, Steve
I highly recommend anyone riding a stance narrower then 21" (unless they are smaller then 5'7", or riding hard boots) to play with widening there stance a quarter to a half inch at a time. Narrow stances are the single most set up mistakes I see riders make...especially older riders. It really hampers your stability.
Jeremy
I've felt this way too. I'm 5'9" 160lbs, and for years rode at 22.5" (center-to-center). A couple years ago, I bumped my stance out an inch or so, and then a little more, out to 24". The different was huge, as it helped me keep myself low and stable with bent knees. Then last year, I got a Gnu Riders Choice (twin/rockered/all-mountain) and I went ahead and bumped it out some more, all the way to 25", and I freaking love it.
I know I'm on the far end of the spectrum compared to most people, but I love the way I ride now and have never felt better. I'm not saying my stance is ideal, but I'm definitely saying that in my personal experience, widening your stance can really help your riding. It's like the first time you add forward lean and you wondered why you had never done it before. All the best riders I personally know ride super wide stances. That's just an observation, so take it for what it is. Everyone's "perfect stance" is different, and there's some advantages to a narrower set-up, but if you've never gone wider, you should totally try it.
I for one was stoked when I saw the stance ranges on the boards since the board before my Gnu didn't go any wider than 24"... but yeah, 28" is riduculous. Haha
One thing to consider if you're going to move your stance width up. You're probably going to want to flatten the angle of your back foot. A wide stance with an aggressive angle on the front will put alot of pressure on your rear hip. You don't need to go duck but if you go wide I'd keep the back foot under 10 degrees.
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Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 11:40 am Posts: 40 Location: Whistler, BC
caseythefever wrote:
The different was huge, as it helped me keep myself low and stable with bent knees.
I know I'm on the far end of the spectrum compared to most people, but I love the way I ride now and have never felt better. I'm not saying my stance is ideal, but I'm definitely saying that in my personal experience, widening your stance can really help your riding. It's like the first time you add forward lean and you wondered why you had never done it before. All the best riders I personally know ride super wide stances. That's just an observation, so take it for what it is. Everyone's "perfect stance" is different, and there's some advantages to a narrower set-up, but if you've never gone wider, you should totally try it.
I'm in the same boat - not sure if it's just my riding improving over time, but my stance has widened from 22.5 to 24 over the past season and I've never felt stronger and more stable (6'1" 185). Haven't played around with angles too much - 21/15 (duck) works for me...
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:05 am Posts: 1179 Location: Colorado
Yup: always consider stance angles and widths together. One can ride a much wider stance when "duck" or with, even, 0 degrees for the rear foot. consider where your ankles end up (or measure at the middle of the heel loop on your bindings). I ride with an angled stance: ~27 degrees front, ~12 degrees back. I prefer these angles as I almost never ride switch, and I prefer to have my body pointed more towards the falline for vision on the steeps. With these angles, a 21" stance is about as wide as I can go without feeling really awkward-but my heels are easily as far apart as a 22" stance with my rear foot at 0 degrees... I ride the same stance with both hard and soft boots; of course my hard boots are actually softer than my soft boots, but that is another story....
Joined: Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:12 pm Posts: 1 Location: California
Jeremy, When you say you ride centered on the solution, are you actually centered on the board or centered over the inserts (inserts are set back 20mm, right?). If you could describe how you go about setting up you stance so I have a starting point it would be much appreciated.I just received my solution 161 and am stoked to get it out in the Sierra's this weekend. I am 5'9" 160 lbs.
This is America. Our country was built on freedom of choice among other things, so it is in our nature to want to see different options instead of forced into one. Look at Obama for example. He has been forcing his socialist way of thinking on the whole country and look at how his popularity has taken a huge dump because of it! Fortunately, this is only snowboarding so the only thing effected is sales. Even if by manufacturing a board to force people to ride wider than they want or are used to, you limit sales... It really is that simple. I am trying different stance options myself and am not really locked into anything yet, but having an option is what is going to sell more boards.
Happy new year all. Wondering if any one can actually comment on any differences/subtleties between the Flagship and the Solution 64. Stance options included I am getting ready to cut my Flagship in half only because it is a dream board!!!! My splitys over the years Have only ever come close... unless you find "that" one and bust out a Skilly Why should there be any but a slight difference between your splity and sledding/day to day board........ Blah blah. Peace and Happy shredding in 2011
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