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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping bags - whatcha using?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:38 am 
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Here are some good tips and thoughts from WildSnow.com's Lou Dawson (from their Denali Expedition), see http://www.wildsnow.com/3326/denali-tent-sleeping-bags/

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping bags - whatcha using?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:13 am 
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I'm hoping to get into some winter camping for the first time this year. I have a 15º Big Anges Encampment. I'll be somewhere in Northern New England (VT, NH, ME) where it pretty cold every night. Usually 0-15º for the low at night. Will this bag be warm enough in a tent?

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping bags - whatcha using?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:35 pm 
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A 15 degree bag may be on the cool side for below zero temps. However you could add another down summer bag to the Big Agnes.

Also be sure to include a full length Ensolite pad.

That said, consider renting a winter bag if your concern about being cold.

or trying out winter camping, try in Spring (March -April) when temps and days are warmer.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping bags - whatcha using?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:22 am 
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What do you think about adding the BA Dual Core?
http://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Pad/DualCore

I'll probably test it out in the backyard before heading too far off into the woods.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping bags - whatcha using?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:42 pm 
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I would simply recommend a very thick ensolite pad and a slightly warmer bag for trying out winter camping. Again try to rent a winter synthetic bag.

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What do you think about adding the BA Dual Core?
http://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Pad/DualCore


My wife and I have the Big Agnes (BA) King Solomon Double Sleeping Bag with Dual Core sleeping pads on our honeymoon (July 2007) in Vermont. Simply, we were cold with the Dual Core pads.

So I would not recommend the Dual core for winter camping, however the BA site says " Add a closed cell foam pad in colder temperatures for extra insulation"

Since then we purchased the BA Two Trac Pads and we were comfortable with them for winter camping. except... for the the bulk.

Meaning we go on hut trips and the Two Trac Pads are just to bulky to carry for an emergency bivouc gear. So I just purchased two Exped DownMat 9 from Ebay for this reason.

Also we carry an 2 x 1/2 length ensolite pads which fits in our ski packs. Ensolite pads have many uses for winter camping!

I wish we had these Exped DownMats last Valentines Day, as we had to bivouac overnight in below zero temps. We manage to sleep on the 1/2 ensolite pads and our packs with winter bags, but we were still chilled some.

Bottom line, for first time winter campers, I would try to rent quality winter gear (aka a Synthectic winter bag, thermorest / enslotie pad) from a local mountain shop and plan a short trips into the backcountry and enjoy the experience.

Short trips because your carrying a lot more gear, and everything takes a lot longer to set up.

PS Take a white gas stove! I have used the MSR XGK and/or a MSR Whisper-lite for winter camping. These stove work great.

I also MSR Pocket Rocket (butane canister) stove in our ski pack (for emergency bivouac). The Rocket worked ok the night of our Valentines bivouac, but in the morning the Rocket would not start. I should have taken the butane fuel canister and placed it in the bottom of my sleeping bag, the night before.

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I'll probably test it out in the backyard before heading too far off into the woods.

This is a good idea, Try to test your gear wearing your gloves and/or mittens in the backyard.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleeping bags - whatcha using?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:36 am 
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Wow, thanks for all the detailed information! I'll take your advice and let you know how it goes in a month or so. Thanks!

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