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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:02 pm 
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god damn looks like i missed some fun on this thread. come on BCRIDER deleting post is the cowards way out :wink:

excited to check out your set up this winter buckchow.

Just dusted my ignition II's off to put on my rock board. funny how what was the hot shit two seasons ago looks like a clunky fat girl compared to the blazes karakoram, and even my HB set up.

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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:16 pm 
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Excellent thoughts and writup Buckchow

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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:15 am 
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Well put, Buck. That review was the Balz.


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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:03 am 
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We each approach this new Karakorum Split30 system with the baggage of our unique personal histories, behavioral quirks, physical abnormalities, habitual compulsions, formative sexual experiences, and random mutations due to radiation. None of us experiences the same universe, so we will not agree on which splitboard setup, ice cream flavor, Wu Tang member, or sexual position is best*. Where I’m coming from, is that I’m curious how the Split 30 compares with a Voile/Spark Fuse setup. The following is the view through my reality tunnel.


Now that is some funny shit :lol: :lol: :lol:

Great write-up. We need more trip reports from you.


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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:08 am 
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buckchow wrote:
Good Review...


After reading this, it's probably a good idea to get the toe ramps?


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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:22 am 
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Yeah Buckchow!! a review worth reading!

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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 3:10 pm 
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Buckchow your reality tunnel has served us well. Great write up :headbang:

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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
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Buckchow, you're completely and totally full of shit. Everyone knows Ol' Dirty Bastard is the premiere member of Wu Tang. Regarding splitboard bindings though you have a good way with words and I think your comprehensive initial review is worthwhile. I look forward to hearing something of the same regarding the Blazes.

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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:12 pm 
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buckchow wrote:

My socioeconomic status is such that I can support multiple splitboard setups. I’m happy to add a Split30 setup to the family. Spark R&D also makes great gear and have stood behind it. I’m for sure going to check out the new Balzes. Whoops, that’s a good typo though. I meant Blazes. I would be hella stoked to ride a new binder called "The Balzes" though. Speaking of blazing, think I’ll go do that, later.




How about a little head to head? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:23 pm 
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it looks like the blazes and split30s use the same toe straps/ladders


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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:33 pm 
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^ same ratchets as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
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HikeforTurns wrote:
^ same ratchets as well.


How much forward lean can you get out of that new Blaze Highback?

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 Post subject: Re: Karakorams or Sparks?
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HikeforTurns, you are Dr. Sparkorumstein.

Here's what my scale says (all measurements to +/- 5 grams) when I put the following stuff on it:

1 foot's worth of Voile slider track w/ the four insert bolts that go with it: 125g
1 foot's worth of split30ride mode brackets w/ 4 bolts: 200g

1 Voile heel riser w/ 2 bolts: 50g
1 split30 heel riser w/ 2 bolts: 50g

1 Voile touring bracket with 3 bolts: 60g
1 split30 touring bracket with 3 bolts: 75g

1 pair Voile chinese hooks with 4 tbolts/nuts: 40g
1 pair split30 boardclips with 4 tbolts/nuts: 50g

(no tip clips available at weigh-in)

1 stock Spark Fuse (med? or med/lg?) binder w/ pin: 960g
1 stock Spark Blaze size medium binder w/pin: 810g
1 stock Karakorum size medium binder: 930g

total voile hardware w/ 2 Fuse binders (except for the tip clips): 2465g
total voile hardware w/ 2 Blaze binder (except for the tip clips): 2155g
total split30 hardware w/ 2 binders (except for the tip clips): 2610g

So, I measure a Blaze setup to be a pound (455g) lighter than a split30 setup, if you don't consider the tip clips, which can't be much different between the 2 systems. This is a more significant difference than what others have reported. Not sure why that is.


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