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 Post subject: Oil-Free Snowboarding
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:08 pm 
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In my last nine years of snowboarding, I'm sure I have spent thousands of dollars on gas getting to the hills in pursuit of snowboarding. It is extremely difficult not to. However, in the interest of not subsidizing our current oil expoits (besides, gas is expensive and global warming does not coincide with snow falling), I try to drive as little as possible or carpool. In fact, I would like to get rid of my car. This would be easy if I never ventured into the mountains, or even if I only frequented resorts. Unfortunately, this is not the case. I tend to seek out remote backcountry areas where a vehicle is generally necessary.

Thinking of ways around this, I have so far come up with two solutions: First is riding a bike, second is hitch-hiking. The problem with the first is that in winter, biking can be difficult and very unpleasant, not to mention that if you bike 50 miles to get to the starting point, you're already beat. The problem with hitching is that it is slow, infrequently goes to the precise location, and poses a problem with gear storage (as with biking).

Taking these factors into account, I was wondering if any of you had any other solutions to this dilemma, aside from moving to a mountain town with completely adjacent backcountry areas. All ideas are appreciated.

Biodiesel maybe?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:43 pm 
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biodiesel rules! also, I haven't checked into the operating temperatures but you can go greasel (.com -i think) search greasel and u can run the straight used oil w/ o processing it.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:36 pm 
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Yup, no way around it, cause not many people care. The classic "canyon crawl" up to snowbird is full of suvs with just one person in them. Nevermind that there's a public bus that runs from the mouth of the canyon to the resorts. People will always drive their own car until the price of doing so becomes prohibitive. Too bad.

Some ideas:
-Ride a train/bus. There used to be the "Ski train" from NYC or Albany up to VT. Then you get a shuttle. Pretty cool.

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-Split to the resort
-Fusion powered moped


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:53 pm 
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carpool. this is a lot easier said than done, but if you know some folks who are citical about their impact on the world it may help. i have the same problem, i ride my bike every where, but to the mtns. in the winter. the doors fall off my cars before they blow up or break down. i have about five friends who all take turns driving, this works most of the time. still using gas though. gas isn't the real problem it's the "peoples" use of it. boy, this stuff gets me fired up. good luck with this one, if you learn something that works let me know.


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 Post subject: Re: Oil-Free Snowboarding
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:13 pm 
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nomad wrote:
Biodiesel maybe?


I am pretty sure in your neck of the woods that this is not a viable option. It doesn't take long for it to freeze. Work still needs to be done for a car to run biodiesel during the winter.


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 Post subject: Mountain Town or Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:06 am 
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Living in a mountain town is the best option if you can afford the loss of brain cells.

Living in Switzerland ain't so bad either - trains and busses go everywhere, and there's loads of hydro-electric powered lifts to increase downhill vertical.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain Town or Switzerland
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:28 am 
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psychomac wrote:
Living in a mountain town is the best option if you can afford the loss of brain cells.

Living in Switzerland ain't so bad either - trains and busses go everywhere, and there's loads of hydro-electric powered lifts to increase downhill vertical.


Living in the Mountains is a good Idea, but we don´t can live all there.

I musst drive with my Car 2 hours every Weekend but we do this with 4 people in the car. Train is good in Winter but now in the spring wenn you must start a Tour at 6 a clock there is no train.

Greets from South Germany Chris with the same Problems

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:58 am 
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I think biodiesel is an option. If it is provided by gas stations it won't freeze at low temps. Fact is that common diesel would freeze all the time at low temps if they wouldn't mix a certain amount of petrol to it, and i would say they do the same with the bio stuff.


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