Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:46 pm Posts: 10 Location: Bezerkely, CA
i had the chance to ride a venture swallow-tail at silverton resort on March 16. What i rode was essentially a storm 161 with a wedge cut out of the tail. actually, i was surprised at how much i DIDN'T like it. conditions that day were variable, and the board felt rattly and unsure. i think the swallowtail actually made turning more difficult, and riding through the trees was a scary challenging endeavor. after 2 runs, i went back to my burton custom 164 and felt much happier.
bottom line - swallow tails are best for deep powder and should involve more in their design than just chopping the tail.
Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:26 pm Posts: 15 Location: Vail, CO
I have tried 161 swallow on late Feb, and the board did run very good in both trees and open steep. Maybe the condition that day was way better than the day you tried. 165 was a total chaos though. Overall, I agree that venture swallow ISN'T that good YET.
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:12 am Posts: 828 Location: PNW Hood Canal
Some companies have marketed shallow tail cut boards as "fish" tails vice "swallow" tails. O-sin had a model until a few years ago that really was more of a fish tail that seems to get very good reviews.
I have thought of cutting out part of the tails of one of my boards to make my own swallow/fish tail to allow reduced rear leg pressure.
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